Showing posts with label Walter Schloss. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Walter Schloss. Show all posts

Monday 25 March 2019

Walter Schloss: Making money out of junk

Walter Schloss made 21% per year for 47 years, investing in a simple, methodical, low stress manner working 9-4:30 with no other employees or assistants other than his son Edwin.
Here are some key takeaways from the interesting Forbes piece:
  • Focus on cheap stocks. This means not worrying about earnings at the moment, only asset protection.
  • You have three things in your favor here:
    • Earnings turn around and the stock appreciates significantly
    • Someone buys control of the company (buyout)
    • The company begins buying its own stock (share-buyback)

Read the whole article here:

Monday 28 August 2017

Learning from Philip Fisher and Walter Schloss

A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Philip Fisher and Walter Schloss About Investing By Tren Griffin



1. “I had made what I believe was one of the more valuable decisions of my business life. This was to confine all efforts solely to making major gains in the long-run…. There are two fundamental approaches to  investment.  There’s the approach Ben Graham pioneered, which is to find  something intrinsically so cheap that there is little chance of it having a big  decline. He’s got financial safeguards to that. It isn’t going to go down much,  and sooner or later value will come into it.  Then there is my approach, which is to find  something so good–if you don’t pay too much for it–that it will have very,  very large growth. The advantage is that a bigger percentage of my stocks is apt  to perform in a smaller period of time–although it has taken several years for  some of these to even start, and you’re bound to make some mistakes at it. [But]  when a stock is really unusual, it makes the bulk of its moves in a relatively  short period of time.”  Phil Fisher understood (1) trying to predict the direction  of a market or stock in the short-term is not a game where one can have an advantage versus the house (especially after fees); and (2) his approach was different from Ben Graham.
2. “I don’t want a lot of good investments; I want a few outstanding ones…. I believe that the greatest long-range investment profits are never obtained by investing in marginal companies.”  Warren Buffett once said: “I’m 15%  Fisher and 85% Benjamin Graham.”  Warren Buffett is much more like Fisher in 2013 than the 15% he once specified, but only he knows how much. It was the influence of Charlie Munger which moved Buffet away from a Benjamin Graham approach and their investment in See’s Candy  was an early example in which Berkshire paid up for a “quality” company.  Part of the reason this shift happened is that the sorts of companies that Benjamin Graham liked no longer existed the further way the time period was from the depression.
3. “The wise investor can profit if he can think independently of the crowd and reach the rich answer when the majority of financial opinion is leaning the other way. This matter of training oneself not to go with the crowd but to  be able to zig when the crowd zags, in my opinion, is one of the most important fundamentals of investment success.”The inevitable math is that you can’t beat the crowd if you are the crowd, especially after fees are deducted.
4. “Usually a very long list of securities is not a sign of the brilliant investor, but of one who is unsure of himself. … Investors have been so oversold on diversification that fear of having too many eggs in one basket has caused  them to put far too little into companies they thoroughly know and far too much in others which they know nothing about.” For the “know-something” active investor like Phil Fisher, wide diversification is a form of closet indexing.  A “know-something”  active investor must focus on a relatively small number of stocks if he or she expects to outperform a market.  By contrast, “know-nothing” investors (i.e., muppets) should buy a low fee index fund.
5. “If the job has been correctly done when a common stock is purchased, the time to sell it is almost never.” Phil Fisher preferred a holding period of almost forever (e.g., Fisher bought Motorola in 1955 and held it until 2004). The word “almost” is important since every company is in danger of losing its moat.
6. “Great stocks are extremely hard to find. If they weren’t, then everyone would own them.  The record is crystal clear that fortune – producing growth stocks can be found. However, they cannot be found without hard work and they  cannot be found every day.”  Fisher believed that the “fat pitch” investment opportunity is delivered rarely and only to those investors who are willing to patiently work to find them.
7. “Focus on buying these companies when they are out of favor, that is when, either because of general market conditions or because the financial community at the moment has misconceptions of its true worth, the stock is selling  at prices well under what it will be when it’s true merit is better understood.” Like Howard Marks, Fisher believed that (1) business cycles and (2) changes in Mr. Market’s attitude are inevitable.  By focusing on the value of individual stocks (rather than just price) the  investor can best profit from these inevitable swings.
8. “The successful investor is usually an individual who is inherently interested in business problems.” A stock is a part ownership of a business. If you do not understand the business you do not understand that stock.  If you  do not understand the business you are investing in you are a speculator, not an investor.
9. “The stock market is filled with individuals who know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.” Price is what you pay and value is what you get.  By focusing on value Fisher was able to outperform as an investor even  though he did not look for cigar butts.
10. “It is not the profit margins of the past but those of the future that are basically important to the investor.” Too often people believe that the best prediction about the future is that it is an extension of the recent past.
11. “There is a complicating factor that makes the handling of investment mistakes more difficult. This is the ego in each of us. None of us likes to admit to himself that he has been wrong. If we have made a mistake in buying a stock  but can sell the stock at a small profit, we have somehow lost any sense of having been foolish. On the other hand, if we sell at a small loss we are quite unhappy about the whole matter. This reaction, while completely natural and normal, is probably one  of the most dangerous in which we can indulge ourselves in the entire investment process. More money has probably been lost by investors holding a stock they really did not want until they could ‘at least come out even’ than from any other single reason. If  to these actual losses are added the profits that might have been made through the proper reinvestment of these funds if such reinvestment had been made when the mistake was first realized, the cost of self-indulgence becomes truly tremendous.”  Fisher  was very aware of the problems that loss aversion bias can cause.
12. “Conservative investors sleep well.”  If you are having trouble sleeping due to worrying about your portfolio, reducing risk is wise. Life is too short to not sleep well, but also fear can result in mistakes.
Walter Schloss
1. “I think investing is an art, and we tried to be as logical and unemotional as possible. Because we understood that investors are usually affected by the market, we could take advantage of the market by being rational. As [Benjamin]  Graham said, ‘The market is there to serve you, not to guide you!’.”  Walter Schloss was the closest possible match to the investing style of Benjamin Graham.  No one else more closely followed the “cigar butt” style of investing of Benjamin Graham.  In  other words, if being like Benjamin Graham was a game of golf, Walter Schloss was “closest to the pin.”  He was a man of his times and those times included the depression which had a profound impact on him.  While his exact style of investing is not possible  today, today’s investor’s still can learn from Walter Schloss.  It is by combining the best of investors like Phil Fisher and Walter Schloss and matching it to their unique skills and personality that investors will find the best results.  Warren  Buffet once wrote in a letter:  “Walter outperforms managers who work in temples filled with paintings, staff and computers… by rummaging among the cigar butts on the floor of capitalism.”   When Walter’s son told him no such cigar butt companies existed any  longer Walter told his son it was time to close the firm.  The other focus of Walter Schloos was low fees and costs. When it came to keeping overhead and investing expenses low, Walter Schloss was a zealot.
2. “I try to establish the value of the company.  Remember that a share of stock represents a part of a business and is not just a piece of paper. … Price is the most important factor to use in relation to value…. I believe stocks  should be evaluated based on intrinsic worth, NOT on whether they are under or over priced in relationship with each other…. The key to the purchase of an undervalued stock is its price COMPARED to its intrinsic worth.”
3.”I like Ben’s analogy that one should buy stocks the way you buy groceries not the way you buy perfume… keep it simple and try not to use higher mathematics in you analysis.” Keeping emotion out of the picture was a key part of  the Schloss style. Like Ben Graham he as first and foremost rational.
4. “If a stock is cheap, I start buying. I never put a stop loss on my holdings because if I like a stock in the first place, I like it more if it goes down. Somehow I find it difficult to buy a stock that has gone up.” 
5. “I don’t like stress and prefer to avoid it, I never focus too much on market news and economic data. They always worry investors!” Like all great investors in this series, the focus of Schloss was on individual companies not  the macro economy.  Simpler systems are orders of magnitude easier to understand for an investor.
6. “The key to successful investing is to relate value to price today.” Not only did Schloss not try to forecast the macro market, he did not really focus forecasting the future prospects of the company.  This was very different  than the Phil Fisher approach which was focused on future earnings.
7. “I like the idea of owning a number of stocks. Warren Buffet is happy owning a few stocks, and he is right if he is Warren….” Schloss was a value investor who also practiced diversification.  Because of his focus on obscure  companies and the period in which he was investing, Walter was able to avoid closet indexing.
8. “We don’t own stocks that we’d never sell.  I guess we are a kind of store that buys goods for inventory (stocks) and we’d like to sell them at a profit within 4 years if possible.”  This is very different from a Phil Fisher  approach where his favorite holding period is almost forever. Schloss once said in a Colombia Business school talk that he owned “some 60-75 stocks”.
9.  “Remember the word compounding.  For example, if you can make 12% a year and reinvest the money back, you will double your money in 6 years, taxes excluded.  Remember the rule of 72.  Your rate of return into 72 will tell you  the number of years to double your money.” Schloss felt that “compounding could offset [any advantage created by] the fellow who was running around visiting managements.”
10.  “The ability to think clearly in the investment field without the emotions that are attached to it is not an easy undertaking. Fear and greed tend to affect one’s judgment.” Schloss was very self-aware and matched his investment  style to his personality. He said once” We try to do what is comfortable for us.”
11. “Don’t buy on tips or for a quick move.”
12.  “In thinking about how one should invest, it is important to look at you strengths and weaknesses. …I’m not very good at judging people. So I found that it was much better to look at the figures rather than people.” Schloss knew  that Warren Buffett was a better judge of people than he was so Walter’s approach was almost completely quantitative.  Schloss knew to stay within his “circle of competence”.  Schloss said once: “Ben Graham didn’t visit management because he thought figure told  the story.”

9 THOUGHTS ON “A DOZEN THINGS I’VE LEARNED FROM PHILIP FISHER AND WALTER SCHLOSS ABOUT INVESTING

  1. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/130959.jsp

Monday 1 February 2016

THE 10 BEST INVESTORS IN THE WORLD

Warren Buffett
Charlie Munger
Joel Greenblatt
John Templeton
Benjamin Graham
Philip Fisher
Mohnish Pabrai
Walter Schloss
Peter Lynch
Seth Klarman



Warren Buffett (1930)

"Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down."

Warren Buffett, born on August 30, 1930 in Omaha, Nebraska, is known as the world's best investor of all time. He is among the top three richest people in the world for several years in a row now, thanks to the consistent, mind-boggling returns he managed to earn with his investment vehicle Berkshire Hathaway. The funny thing is that Buffett does not even care that much about money. Investing is simply something he enjoys doing. Buffett still owns the same house he bought back in 1958, hates expensive suits, and still drives his secondhand car.

Investment philosophy:
 Focuses on individual companies, rather than macro-economic factors
 Invests in companies with sustainable competitive advantages
 Prefers becoming an expert on a few companies over major diversification
 Does not believe in technical analysis
 Bases his investment decisions on the operational performance of the underlying businesses
 Holds on to stocks for an extremely long period, some stocks he never sells
 Uses price fluctuations to its advantage by buying when undervalued and selling when overvalued with respect to intrinsic value
 Puts much emphasis on the importance of shareholder friendly, capable management
 Beliefs margin of safety are the three most important words in investing


Charlie Munger (1924)

"All intelligent investing is value investing — acquiring more than you are paying for."

Charlie Munger is vice-chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, Warren Buffett's investment vehicle. Even though Buffett and Munger were born in Omaha, Nebraska, they did not meet until 1959. After graduating from Harvard Law School, Munger started a successful law firm which still exists today. In 1965 he started his own investment partnership, which returned 24.3% annually between 1965 and 1975, while the Dow Jones only returned 6.4% during the same period. In 1975 he joined forces with Warren Buffett, and ever since that moment Charlie Munger has played a massive role in the success of Berkshire Hathaway. While Buffett is extrovert and a pure investor, Munger is more introvert and a generalist with a broad range of interests. The fact that they differ so much from each other is probably why they complement each other so well.

Investment philosophy:
 Convinced Buffett that stocks trading at prices above their book value can still be interesting, as long as they trade below their intrinsic value
 Has a multidisciplinary approach to investing which he also applies to other parts of his life ("Know a little about a lot")
 Reads books continuously about varied topics like math, history, biology, physics, economy, psychology, you name it!
 Focuses on the strength and sustainability of competitive advantages
 Sticks to what he knows, in other words, companies within his "circle of competence"
 Beliefs it is better to hold on to cash than to invest it in mediocre opportunities
 Says it is better to be roughly right than precisely wrong with your predictions


Joel Greenblatt (1957)

“Choosing individual stocks without any idea of what you’re looking for is like running through a dynamite factory with a burning match. You may live, but you’re still an idiot.”

Joel Greenblatt definitely knows how to invest. In 1985 he started his investment fund Gotham Capital, ten years later, in 1995, he had earned an incredible average return of 50% per year for its investors. He decided to pay his investors their money back and continued investing purely with his own capital. Many people know Joel Greenblatt for his investment classic The Little Book That Beats The Market* and his website magicformulainvesting.com. Greenblatt is also an adjunct-professor at the Columbia Business School.

Investment philosophy:
 Buys good stocks when they are on sale
 Prefers highly profitable companies
 Uses the Normalized Earnings Yield to assess whether a company is cheap
 Beliefs thorough research does more to reduce risk than excessive diversification (he often has no more than 8 companies in his portfolio)
 Largely ignores macro-economical developments and short term price movements


John Templeton (1912 -2008) 

"If you want to have a better performance than the crowd, you must do things differently from the crowd."

The late billionaire and legendary investor, John Templeton, was born in 1912 as a member of a poor family in a small village in Tennessee. He was the first of his village to attend University, and he made them proud by finishing economics at Yale and later a law degree at Oxford. Just before WWII, Templeton was working at the predecessor of the now infamous Merrill Lynch investment bank. While everyone was highly pessimistic during these times, Templeton was one of the few who foresaw that the war would give an impulse to the economy, rather than grind it to a halt. He borrowed $10.000 from his boss and invested this money in each of the 104 companies on the US stock market which traded at a price below $1. Four years later he had an average return of 400%! In 1937, in times of the Great Depression, Templeton started his own investment fund and several decennia later he managed the funds of over a million people. In 2000 he shorted 84 technology companies for $200.000, he called it his "easiest profit ever". The beauty is that despite all his wealth, John Templeton had an extremely modest lifestyle and gave much of it away to charitable causes.

Investment philosophy:
 Contrarian, always going against the crowd and buying at the point of maximum pessimism
 Has a global investment approach and looks for interesting stocks in every country, but preferably countries with limited inflation, high economical growth, and a movement toward liberalization and privatization
 Has a long term approach, he holds on to stocks for 6 to 7 years on average
 Focuses on extremely cheap stocks, not necessarily on "good" stocks with a sustainable competitive advantage, like Warren Buffett
 Beliefs in patience, an open-mind, and a skeptical attitude against conventional wisdom
 Warns investors for popular stocks everyone is buying
 Focuses on absolute performance rather than relative performance
 A strong believer in the wealth creating power of the free market economy



Benjamin Graham (1894 - 1976) 

"Price is what you pay, value is what you get."

Columbia Business School professor Benjamin Graham is often called "The Father of Value Investing". He was also Warren Buffett's mentor and wrote the highly influential book The Intelligent Investor, which Buffett once described as the best book on investing ever written. Graham was born in England in 1894, but he and his family moved to the United States just one year later. His official name was Grossbaum, but the family decided to change this German sounding name to Graham during the time of the First World War. Graham was a brilliant student and got offered several teaching jobs on the University, but instead he decided to work for a trading firm and would later start his own investment fund. Due to the use of leverage, his fund lost a whopping 75% of its value between 1929 and 1932, but Graham managed to turn things around and managed to earn a 17% annualized return for the next 30 years. This was way higher than the average stock market return during that same period. In total, Graham taught economics for 28 years on Columbia Business School.

Investment philosophy:
 Focuses more on quantitative, rather than qualitative data
 First step is to look for stocks trading below 2/3rd of net current asset value (NCAV)*
 Prefers companies which pay dividends
 Looks for companies with a consistently profitable history
 Companies should not have too much long term debt
 Earnings should be growing
 Is willing to pay no more than 15 times the average earnings over the past three years
 Diversifies to spread the risk of individual positions
 Emphasizes the importance of a significant Margin of Safety
 Profits from irrational behavior caused by the manic-depressive "Mr. Market"
 Warns that emotions like fear and greed should play no role in your investment decisions

*NCAV = current assets - total liabilities



Philip Fisher (1907 - 2004) 

"I don't want a lot of good investments; I want a few outstanding ones."

Philip Fisher became famous for successfully investing in growth stocks. After studying economics degree at Stanford University, Fisher worked as an investment analyst before starting his own firm, Fisher & Co. This was in 1931, during the times of the Great Depression. Fisher's insights have had a significant influence on both Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger. Philip Fisher is also author of the powerful investment book Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits, which has a quote from Buffett on its cover which reads: "I am an eager reader of whatever Phil has to say, and I recommend him to you."

Investment philosophy:
 Dislikes technical analysis
 Does not belief in "market timing"
 Prefers a concentrated portfolio with around 10 to 12 stocks
 Emphasizes the importance of honest and able management
 Beliefs you should only invest in companies which you can understand
 Warns that you should not follow the masses, but instead have patience and think for yourself
 Companies should have a strong business model, be innovative, highly profitable, and preferably a market leader
 Has a focus on growth potential of both companies and industries
 Buys companies at "reasonable prices" but does not specify what "reasonable" is to him
 A true "buy & hold" investor who often holds on to stocks for decades
 Beliefs great companies purchased at reasonable prices and held for a long time are better investments than reasonable companies bought at great prices
 Has a "scuttlebutt" approach to doing research by asking questions to customers, employees, competitors, analysts, suppliers, and management to find out more about the competitive position of a company and its management
 Only sells when a company starts experiencing issues with its business model, competitive positioning, or management



Mohnish Pabrai (1964)

“Heads, I win; tails, I don’t lose much. “

Mohnish Pabrai has once been heralded as "the new Warren Buffett" by the prestigious American business magazine Forbes. While this seems like big words, you might start to understand why Forbes wrote this when you look at the performance of Pabrai's hedge funds, Pabrai Investment Funds, which have outperformed all of the major indices and 99% of managed funds. At least, that was before his funds suffered significant losses during the recent financial crisis because of their exposure to financial institutions and construction companies. Still, there is much we can learn from his low-risk, high-reward approach to investing, which he describes in his brilliant book The Dhandho Investor: The Low-Risk Value Method to High Returns.

Investment philosophy:
 Points out that there is a big difference between risk and uncertainty
 Looks for low-risk, high-uncertainty opportunities with a significant upside potential
 Only practices minor diversification and usually has around 10 stocks in his portfolio
 Beliefs stock prices are merely "noise"
 Used to buy reasonable companies at great prices, but now wants to focus more on quality companies with a sustainable competitive advantage and shareholder friendly management



Walter Schloss (1916 - 2012) 

"If a stock is cheap, I start buying." While Walter Schloss might not be the most well-known investor of all time, he was definitely one of the best investors of all time. Just like Buffett, Walter Schloss was a student of Benjamin Graham. Schloss is also mentioned as one of the "Super Investors" by Buffett in his must-read essay The Super Investors of Graham-And-Doddsville. An interesting fact about Walter Schloss is that he never went to college. Instead, he took classes taught by Benjamin Graham after which he started working for the Graham-Newton Partnership. In 1955 Schloss started his own value investing fund, which he ran until 2000. During his 45 years managing the fund, Schloss earned an impressive 15.3% return versus a return of 10% for the S&P500 during that same period. Just like Warren Buffett and John Templeton, Walter Schloss was known to be frugal. Schloss died of leukemia in 2012 at age 95.

Investment philosophy:
 Practiced the pure Benjamin Graham style of value investing based on purchasing companies below NCAV
 Generally buys "cigar-butt" companies, or in other words companies in distress which are therefore trading at bargain prices
 Regularly used the Value Line Investment Survey to find attractive stocks
 Minimizes risk by requiring a significant Margin of Safety before investing
 Focuses on cheap stocks, rather than on the performance of the underlying business
 Diversified significantly and has owned around 100 stocks at a time
 Keeps an open mind and even sometimes shorts stocks, like he did with Yahoo and Amazon just before the Dot-Com crash
 Likes stocks which have a high percentage of insider ownership and which pay a dividend
 Is not afraid to hold cash
 Prefers companies which have tangible assets and little or no long-term debt 10



Peter Lynch (1944)

"Everyone has the brain power to make money in stocks. Not everyone has the stomach."

Peter Lynch holds a degree in Finance as well as in Business Administration. After University, Lynch started working for Fidelity Investments as an investment analyst, where he eventually got promoted to director of research. In 1977, Peter Lynch was appointed as manager of the Magellan Fund, where he earned fabled returns until his retirement in 1990. Just before his retirement he published the bestseller One Up On Wall Street: How To Use What You Already Know To Make Money In The Market. Just as many of the other great investors mentioned in this document, Lynch took up philanthropy after he amassed his fortune.

Investment philosophy:
 You need to keep an open mind at all times, be willing to adapt, and learn from mistakes
 Leaves no stone unturned when it comes to doing due diligence and stock research
 Only invests in companies he understands
 Focuses on a company's fundamentals and pays little attention to market noise
 Has a long-term orientation
 Beliefs it is futile to predict interest rates and where the economy is heading
 Warns that you should avoid long shots
 Sees patience as a virtue when it comes to investing
 Emphasizes the importance of first-grade management
 Always formulates exactly why he wants to buy something before he actually buys something



Seth Klarman (1957) 

“Once you adopt a value-investment strategy, any other investment behavior starts to seem like gambling.“

Billionaire investor and founder of the Baupost Group partnership, Seth Klarman, grew up in Baltimore and graduated from both Cornell University (economics) and the Harvard Business School (MBA). In 2014 Forbes mentioned Seth Klarman as one of the 25 Highest-Earning hedge funds managers of 2013, a year in which he generated a whopping $350 million return. Klarman generally keeps a low profile, but in 1991 he wrote the wrote a book Margin of Safety: Risk Averse Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor, which became an instant value investing classic. This book is now out of print, which has pushed the price up to over $1500 for a copy!

Investment philosophy:
 Is extremely risk-averse and focuses primarily on minimizing downside risk
 Does not just look for cheap stocks, but looks for the cheapest stocks of great companies
 Writes that conservative estimates, a significant margin of safety, and minor diversification allow investors to minimize risk despite imperfect information
 Warns that Wall Street, brokers, analysts, advisors, and even investment funds are not necessarily there to make you rich, but first and foremost to make themselves rich
 Often invests in "special situations", like stocks who filed for bankruptcy or risk-arbitrage situations
 Suggests to use several valuation methods simultaneously, since no method is perfect and since it is impossible to precisely calculate the intrinsic value of a company
 Is known for holding a big part of its portfolio in cash when no opportunities exist
 Beliefs investors should focus on absolute performance, rather than relative performance
 Emphasizes that you should find out not only if an asset is undervalued, but also why it is undervalued
 Is not afraid to bet against the crowd and oppose the prevailing investment winds
 Discourages investors to use stop-loss orders, because that way they can't buy more of a great thing when the price declines


Final words 

I hope you enjoyed reading how some the best investors in the world think about investing. You might have noticed some common themes, like buying companies for less than they are worth. And while they all practice this value investing approach, there are also notable differences between the strategies of these masters of investing. Where Warren Buffett runs a concentrated portfolio and focuses on "good" companies with a sustainable competitive advantage, Walter Schloss managed to earn impressive returns by simply buying a diverse set of extremely cheap companies. As Bruce Lee once said: "Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.”


https://www.valuespreadsheet.com/best.pdf

Saturday 16 January 2016

Philip Fisher and Walter Schloss

A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Philip Fisher and Walter Schloss About Investing


1. “I had made what I believe was one of the more valuable decisions of my business life. This was to confine all efforts solely to making major gains in the long-run…. There are two fundamental approaches to  investment.  There’s the approach Ben Graham pioneered, which is to find  something intrinsically so cheap that there is little chance of it having a big  decline. He’s got financial safeguards to that. It isn’t going to go down much,  and sooner or later value will come into it.  Then there is my approach, which is to find  something so good–if you don’t pay too much for it–that it will have very,  very large growth. The advantage is that a bigger percentage of my stocks is apt  to perform in a smaller period of time–although it has taken several years for  some of these to even start, and you’re bound to make some mistakes at it. [But]  when a stock is really unusual, it makes the bulk of its moves in a relatively  short period of time.”  Phil Fisher understood (1) trying to predict the direction  of a market or stock in the short-term is not a game where one can have an advantage versus the house (especially after fees); and (2) his approach was different from Ben Graham.
2. “I don’t want a lot of good investments; I want a few outstanding ones…. I believe that the greatest long-range investment profits are never obtained by investing in marginal companies.”  Warren Buffett once said: “I’m 15%  Fisher and 85% Benjamin Graham.”  Warren Buffett is much more like Fisher in 2013 than the 15% he once specified, but only he knows how much. It was the influence of Charlie Munger which moved Buffet away from a Benjamin Graham approach and their investment in See’s Candy  was an early example in which Berkshire paid up for a “quality” company.  Part of the reason this shift happened is that the sorts of companies that Benjamin Graham liked no longer existed the further way the time period was from the depression.
3. “The wise investor can profit if he can think independently of the crowd and reach the rich answer when the majority of financial opinion is leaning the other way. This matter of training oneself not to go with the crowd but to  be able to zig when the crowd zags, in my opinion, is one of the most important fundamentals of investment success.” The inevitable math is that you can’t beat the crowd if you are the crowd, especially after fees are deducted.
4. “Usually a very long list of securities is not a sign of the brilliant investor, but of one who is unsure of himself. … Investors have been so oversold on diversification that fear of having too many eggs in one basket has caused  them to put far too little into companies they thoroughly know and far too much in others which they know nothing about.” For the “know-something” active investor like Phil Fisher, wide diversification is a form of closet indexing.  A “know-something”  active investor must focus on a relatively small number of stocks if he or she expects to outperform a market.  By contrast, “know-nothing” investors (i.e., muppets) should buy a low fee index fund.
5. “If the job has been correctly done when a common stock is purchased, the time to sell it is almost never.” Phil Fisher preferred a holding period of almost forever (e.g., Fisher bought Motorola in 1955 and held it until 2004). The word “almost” is important since every company is in danger of losing its moat.
6. “Great stocks are extremely hard to find. If they weren’t, then everyone would own them.  The record is crystal clear that fortune – producing growth stocks can be found. However, they cannot be found without hard work and they  cannot be found every day.” Fisher believed that the “fat pitch” investment opportunity is delivered rarely and only to those investors who are willing to patiently work to find them.
7. “Focus on buying these companies when they are out of favor, that is when, either because of general market conditions or because the financial community at the moment has misconceptions of its true worth, the stock is selling  at prices well under what it will be when it’s true merit is better understood.” Like Howard Marks, Fisher believed that (1) business cycles and (2) changes in Mr. Market’s attitude are inevitable.  By focusing on the value of individual stocks (rather than just price) the  investor can best profit from these inevitable swings.
8. “The successful investor is usually an individual who is inherently interested in business problems.” A stock is a part ownership of a business. If you do not understand the business you do not understand that stock.  If you  do not understand the business you are investing in you are a speculator, not an investor.
9. “The stock market is filled with individuals who know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.” Price is what you pay and value is what you get.  By focusing on value Fisher was able to outperform as an investor even  though he did not look for cigar butts.
10. “It is not the profit margins of the past but those of the future that are basically important to the investor.” Too often people believe that the best prediction about the future is that it is an extension of the recent past.
11. “There is a complicating factor that makes the handling of investment mistakes more difficult. This is the ego in each of us. None of us likes to admit to himself that he has been wrong. If we have made a mistake in buying a stock  but can sell the stock at a small profit, we have somehow lost any sense of having been foolish. On the other hand, if we sell at a small loss we are quite unhappy about the whole matter. This reaction, while completely natural and normal, is probably one  of the most dangerous in which we can indulge ourselves in the entire investment process. More money has probably been lost by investors holding a stock they really did not want until they could ‘at least come out even’ than from any other single reason. If  to these actual losses are added the profits that might have been made through the proper reinvestment of these funds if such reinvestment had been made when the mistake was first realized, the cost of self-indulgence becomes truly tremendous.”  Fisher  was very aware of the problems that loss aversion bias can cause.
12. “Conservative investors sleep well.”  If you are having trouble sleeping due to worrying about your portfolio, reducing risk is wise. Life is too short to not sleep well, but also fear can result in mistakes.
Walter Schloss
1. “I think investing is an art, and we tried to be as logical and unemotional as possible. Because we understood that investors are usually affected by the market, we could take advantage of the market by being rational. As [Benjamin]  Graham said, ‘The market is there to serve you, not to guide you!’.”  Walter Schloss was the closest possible match to the investing style of Benjamin Graham.  No one else more closely followed the “cigar butt” style of investing of Benjamin Graham.  In  other words, if being like Benjamin Graham was a game of golf, Walter Schloss was “closest to the pin.”  He was a man of his times and those times included the depression which had a profound impact on him.  While his exact style of investing is not possible  today, today’s investor’s still can learn from Walter Schloss.  It is by combining the best of investors like Phil Fisher and Walter Schloss and matching it to their unique skills and personality that investors will find the best results.  Warren  Buffet once wrote in a letter:  “Walter outperforms managers who work in temples filled with paintings, staff and computers… by rummaging among the cigar butts on the floor of capitalism.”   When Walter’s son told him no such cigar butt companies existed any  longer Walter told his son it was time to close the firm.  The other focus of Walter Schloos was low fees and costs. When it came to keeping overhead and investing expenses low, Walter Schloss was a zealot.
2. “I try to establish the value of the company.  Remember that a share of stock represents a part of a business and is not just a piece of paper. … Price is the most important factor to use in relation to value…. I believe stocks  should be evaluated based on intrinsic worth, NOT on whether they are under or over priced in relationship with each other…. The key to the purchase of an undervalued stock is its price COMPARED to its intrinsic worth.”
3.”I like Ben’s analogy that one should buy stocks the way you buy groceries not the way you buy perfume… keep it simple and try not to use higher mathematics in you analysis.”Keeping emotion out of the picture was a key part of  the Schloss style. Like Ben Graham he as first and foremost rational.
4. “If a stock is cheap, I start buying. I never put a stop loss on my holdings because if I like a stock in the first place, I like it more if it goes down. Somehow I find it difficult to buy a stock that has gone up.” 
5. “I don’t like stress and prefer to avoid it, I never focus too much on market news and economic data. They always worry investors!” Like all great investors in this series, the focus of Schloss was on individual companies not  the macro economy.  Simpler systems are orders of magnitude easier to understand for an investor.
6. “The key to successful investing is to relate value to price today.” Not only did Schloss not try to forecast the macro market, he did not really focus forecasting the future prospects of the company.  This was very different  than the Phil Fisher approach which was focused on future earnings.
7. “I like the idea of owning a number of stocks. Warren Buffet is happy owning a few stocks, and he is right if he is Warren….” Schloss was a value investor who also practiced diversification.  Because of his focus on obscure  companies and the period in which he was investing, Walter was able to avoid closet indexing.
8. “We don’t own stocks that we’d never sell.  I guess we are a kind of store that buys goods for inventory (stocks) and we’d like to sell them at a profit within 4 years if possible.”  This is very different from a Phil Fisher  approach where his favorite holding period is almost forever. Schloss once said in a Colombia Business school talk that he owned “some 60-75 stocks”.
9.  “Remember the word compounding.  For example, if you can make 12% a year and reinvest the money back, you will double your money in 6 years, taxes excluded.  Remember the rule of 72.  Your rate of return into 72 will tell you  the number of years to double your money.” Schloss felt that “compounding could offset [any advantage created by] the fellow who was running around visiting managements.”
10.  “The ability to think clearly in the investment field without the emotions that are attached to it is not an easy undertaking. Fear and greed tend to affect one’s judgment.” Schloss was very self-aware and matched his investment  style to his personality. He said once” We try to do what is comfortable for us.”
11. “Don’t buy on tips or for a quick move.”
12.  “In thinking about how one should invest, it is important to look at you strengths and weaknesses. …I’m not very good at judging people. So I found that it was much better to look at the figures rather than people.” Schloss knew  that Warren Buffett was a better judge of people than he was so Walter’s approach was almost completely quantitative.  Schloss knew to stay within his “circle of competence”.  Schloss said once: “Ben Graham didn’t visit management because he thought figure told  the story.”

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Tuesday 22 December 2015

Walter Schloss remarked on Warren Buffett

Walter Schloss observed that Buffett's advantage is in that he is not afraid of the downside.  (Schloss, 1998)

Thursday 23 February 2012

Walter Schloss, ‘Superinvestor’ Who Earned Praise From Buffett, Dies at 95

By Laurence Arnold - Feb 21, 2012 9:22 AM GMT+0800
Walter Schloss, right, stands for a photo with his son Edwin. Source: Heilbrunn Center for Graham and Dodd Investing, Columbia Business School via Bloomberg
Walter Schloss, the money manager who earned accolades from Warren Buffett (BRK/A) for the steady returns he achieved by applying lessons learned directly from the father of value investing,Benjamin Graham, has died. He was 95.
He died on Feb. 19 at his home in Manhattan, according to his son, Edwin. The cause was leukemia.
From 1955 to 2002, by Schloss’s estimate, his investments returned 16 percent annually on average after fees, compared with 10 percent for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index. (SPX) His firm, Walter J. Schloss Associates, became a partnership, Walter & Edwin Schloss Associates, when his son joined him in 1973. Schloss retired in 2002.
Buffett, a Graham disciple whose stewardship of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. has made him one of the world’s richest men and most emulated investors, called Schloss a “superinvestor” in a 1984 speech at Columbia Business School. He again saluted Schloss as “one of the good guys of Wall Street” in his 2006 letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders.
“Walter Schloss was a very close friend for 61 years,” Buffett said yesterday in a statement. “He had an extraordinary investment record, but even more important, he set an example for integrity in investment management. Walter never made a dime off of his investors unless they themselves made significant money. He charged no fixed fee at all and merely shared in their profits. His fiduciary sense was every bit the equal of his investment skills.”

Began as ‘Runner’

To Buffett, Schloss’s record disproved the theory of an efficient market -- one that, at any given moment, assigns a reasonably accurate price to a stock. If companies weren’t routinely overvalued and undervalued, Buffett reasoned, long- term results like Schloss’s couldn’t be achieved, except through inside information.
Schloss, who never attended college, began working on Wall Street in 1935 as a securities-delivery “runner” at Carl M. Loeb & Co. He said Armand Erpf, the partner in charge of the statistical department, recommended that he read “Security Analysis” by Graham and David Dodd, published a year earlier. The book became a classic in the field. The firm then paid for Schloss to take two courses with Graham sponsored by the New York Stock Exchange Institute.
Schloss stayed in touch with Graham while serving four years in the U.S. Army during World War II, then went to work for Graham before striking out on his own.
The Schloss theory of investing, passed from father to son, involved minimal contact with analysts and company management and maximum scrutiny of financial statements, with particular attention to footnotes.

Focus on Statements

“The Schlosses would rather trust their own analysis and their longstanding commitment to buying cheap stocks,” Bruce Greenwald, Judd Kahn, Paul Sonkin and Michael van Biema wrote in “Value Investing: From Graham to Buffett and Beyond,” their 2001 book.
“This approach,” the authors wrote, “leads them to focus almost exclusively on the published financial statements that public firms must produce each quarter. They start by looking at the balance sheet. Can they buy the company for less than the value of the assets, net of all debt? If so, the stock is a candidate for purchase.”
An example was copper company Asarco Inc. The Schlosses bought shares in 1999 as the stock bottomed out around $13. In November of that year, Grupo Mexico SA (GMEXICOB)bought Asarco for $2.25 billion in cash and assumed debt, paying almost $30 a share.

‘Guts to Buy’

“Basically we like to buy stocks which we feel are undervalued, and then we have to have the guts to buy more when they go down,” Schloss said at a 1998 conference sponsored by Grant’s Interest Rate Observer. “And that’s really the history of Ben Graham.”
Buffett, in his 2006 letter to shareholders, said Schloss took “no real risk, defined as permanent loss of capital” and invested “in about 1,000 securities, mostly of a lackluster type. A few big winners did not account for his success.”
Edwin Schloss, now retired, said yesterday in an interview that his father’s investing philosophy and longevity were probably related.
“A lot of money managers today worry about quarterly comparisons in earnings,” he said. “They’re up biting their fingernails until 5 in the morning. My dad never worried about quarterly comparisons. He slept well.”
Walter Jerome Schloss was born on Aug. 28, 1916, in New York City, the son of Jerome H. Schloss and the former Evelyn Gomprecht, according to a paid notice in the New York Times. He attended the Franklin School in Manhattan, now part of the Dwight School.

Early Lessons

Schloss learned lessons about earning and saving from his father, whose radio factory warehouse burned down before a single unit was sold, and from his mother, who lost her family inheritance in the 1929 market crash, Alice Schroeder wrote in her 2009 book, “The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life.”
He enlisted in the Army on Dec. 8, 1941, the day after Japan’s surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and rose to the rank of second lieutenant. He served in Iran as part of the Signal Corps, then moved to the Pentagon in Washington to complete his tours of duty.
During this period, he stayed in touch with Graham, who was looking for a securities analyst just as Schloss was finishing up his wartime service. Schloss joined Graham-Newman in 1946.
Schloss first met Buffett at an annual meeting of wholesaler Marshall Wells, which drew both investors because it was trading at a discount to net working capital, according to a 2008 article in Forbes magazine. When Buffett joined Graham- Newman, he and Schloss shared an office.
While Buffett became a star inside the firm, Schloss was “pigeonholed as a journeyman employee who would never rise to partnership,” Schroeder, a Bloomberg News columnist, wrote in her book.
Schloss left Graham-Newman in 1955 and, with $100,000 from an initial 19 investors, began buying stocks on his own.
His wife, Louise, died in 2000. They also had a daughter, Stephanie. In 2001, Schloss married the former Ann Pearson.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-20/walter-schloss-superinvestor-who-earned-buffett-s-praise-dies-at-95.html



Walter Schloss -- What a Guy

Today brings the news that superinvestor and Buffett friend Walter Schloss is no longer with us.
I admired Walter for many reasons: his devotion to his family, his investing prowess, and his zest for life. His first wife was ill with serious depression for decades and throughout, he cared for her tirelessly. Meanwhile, he worked in a tiny closet-sized office at Tweedy Brown, and used essentially nothing but pencils, paper, and Value Line to produce some of the best investing results in history. Later his son Edwin joined him in the business, but they never deviated from the style that made him a success, which his friends referred to as mainly buying "buggy-whip manufacturers," moribund companies that were trading for less than their carcasses would be worth.
As for the zest, there is a photo in The Snowball of Walter dancing at his 90th birthday party. He was really cutting the rug, not just doing a pose for the camera, and you can tell how much fun he was having and what a lively person he was from that picture. That night he told me how much he enjoyed still being able to play tennis at his age. He had recently remarried and was fully involved in life.
The first time I ever spoke to Walter was several years earlier, in a phone interview. Warren had mentioned that Walter's political views were a "little more right wing" than Buffett's own. When we got on the phone, Walter immediately wanted let me know he just could not understand how Warren could believe the things he did about taxes. While Warren would always take his calls, Walter had found that if the subject turned to politics they tended to end quickly. So Walter figured that I was a possible vehicle to get his views through to Warren, and he made that very clear. My interview transcript ended up consisting about 75% of a message to Warren about his wrong-headedness on taxes. I must say that Warren took it well.
That was my introduction to the dynamic among the insiders in the Buffett Group. Walter was one of the earilier interviews, and as it turned out, only a prelude to a series of people who wanted to use part of their interviews to send the same message. But Walter was more outspoken than most. It seems appropriate that the news of his death would come on President's Day.
The most notable thing I remember about Walter, though, was not his politics; it was his generosity. It was he who helped me really understand what life was like working at Graham-Newman. He also contributed greatly to the portrait of Warren as a young investor. Walter gave me an abundance of information about Ben Graham, and later donated his papers to Columbia University. These are only examples, and I'm sure that many other people have stories of how open-hearted this man was. He will be very much missed.
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