Showing posts with label business valuation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label business valuation. Show all posts

Friday, 13 February 2026

How Stock Prices are Set (Stock Market for Beginners*


0:01 Intro ✅ 0:55 Supply & Demand in the Stock Market ✅ 1:08 Order Book (Bids & Asks) ✅ 2:14 Why Stock Prices Rise & Fall (with examples) ✅ 3:03 Intrinsic Value vs. Market Price: What a stock is really worth ✅ 3:32 Importance of Intrinsic Value ✅ 4:13 How Investors Calculate Intrinsic Value ✅ 4:27 Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) ✅ 5:43 Dividend Discount Model (DDM) ✅ 6:12 Asset-Based Valuation ✅ 6:44 Earnings Multiples (like P/E Ratios) ✅ 7:08 Value Investing ✅ 7:31 Stocks Above their Intrinsic Value ✅ 8:51 Is Intrinsic Value useful? ✅


Stock prices are set by supply and demand in the market, driven by investor sentiment, company earnings, and economic factors. Buyers and sellers set bid and ask prices, with transactions occurring when they agree, often facilitated by an "electronic limit order book". Key drivers include company performance, future outlook, and macroeconomic conditions.


  • Supply and Demand: Prices rise when demand exceeds supply and fall when selling pressure is higher.
  • The Process: Exchanges use an electronic limit order book, where, behind the scenes, buy orders (bids) and sell orders (asks) are matched.
  • Fundamental Factors: Long-term prices are heavily influenced by a company's earnings, assets, and future growth prospects.
  • Role of Sentiment: News, sentiment, and market trends can cause short-term fluctuations, often ignoring a company's true "intrinsic value".
  • Macroeconomic Impact: Factors like central bank interest rates, economic policies, and inflation also influence general stock price movements.
For beginners, understanding that individual stocks are riskier and more volatile than diversified funds is crucial.

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The Myth:
Stock prices aren't set by Wall Street elites in closed doors; they are determined in an open marketplace.

The Mechanism: The Order Book

  • The constant change in price is a "numerical battle" between buyers and sellers happening in real time.

  • Bids: What buyers are willing to pay.

  • Asks: What sellers are willing to accept.

  • This live list is called the order book (the market's "secret playbook").

The Current Price:

  • The price you see on your app is simply the price of the last transaction where a buyer and seller agreed.

  • Key takeaway: The price you see is not necessarily the price you would get if you tried to buy or sell right now.



How Prices Move (The Battle Continues):

  • When buyers are hyped: They get aggressive and raise their bids to convince sellers to sell. This creates a "bidding war" that pushes the stock price up.

  • When sellers are scared: (e.g., due to bad news) They panic and lower their asking prices to find a buyer quickly. This creates a "sale" effect that pushes the stock price down.


Introducing Intrinsic Value:

  • Shifts from the mechanical "how" to the philosophical "why" (Why is a stock worth $5 vs $500?).

  • Intrinsic Value: The "real" value of a company based on its fundamentals (earnings, assets, growth potential).

  • It represents what the company should be worth if you ignore market hype or panic.

The Core Concept:

  • Undervalued: Market price is lower than intrinsic value (potential good deal).

  • Overvalued: Market price is higher than intrinsic value (potential wait or sell).

  • Crucial Note: Intrinsic value is subjective. It is an estimate, not a fact (unlike weighing apples). Different people analyzing the same company will arrive at different numbers.



Intrinsic Value is Subjective:

  • It is an estimate, not a hard fact. Different investors calculate different values for the same company.

Common Methods to Calculate Intrinsic Value:

  1. Discounted Cash Flow (DCF):

    • Concept: Predicts the future cash a company will generate and then calculates what that future money is worth today.

    • Why discount? Money in the future is worth less than money today due to inflation and risk.

    • Example: $100 earned in 3 years is only worth about $75 today (using a 10% discount rate).

    • Terminal Value: An estimate of the company’s value beyond the forecast period.

    • Result: If the sum of these discounted cash flows equals $10 per share, but the stock is trading at $8, it might be undervalued.

  2. Dividend Discount Model:

    • Focuses specifically on the cash paid out to shareholders (dividends).

    • Useful for stable companies (e.g., utility companies) that pay reliable dividends.

    • You estimate future dividend payments, including its growth and discount them back to today’s value.

  3. Asset-Based Valuation:

    • Adds up everything the company owns (buildings, cash, equipment) and subtracts everything it owes (debt).

    • Works well for companies with lots of physical assets (e.g., real estate firms or banks).



Earnings Multiples (P/E Ratio):

  • A quicker valuation method based on comparisons.

  • How it works: Take the company's earnings per share (profit) and multiply it by the average multiple of similar companies.

  • Example: If tech stocks typically trade at 20x earnings and your company earns $5 per share, the intrinsic value might be estimated at $100 per share.

  • Drawback: Relies on comparisons, so it is not always accurate.

Value Investors:

  • Investors like Warren Buffett swear by intrinsic value.

  • Strategy: Buy stocks trading below their intrinsic value (undervalued) and hold them long-term, ignoring short-term market noise.

  • Buffett's analogy: "Investing is like buying a farm. You look at its soil and crops, not what the neighbor paid yesterday."

Why Stocks Trade Above Intrinsic Value:

  • Not everyone focuses on intrinsic value. Some stocks trade higher than their fundamentals suggest.

  • Tesla Example: For years, the stock price seemed too high based on current profits, but investors were buying for future expectations (growth and new technology), not today's numbers.

Why This Happens:

  1. Market Sentiment: Excitement about a company or sector can drive prices up, ignoring earnings.

  2. Future Expectations: Growth stocks (tech, biotech) often trade high because investors bet on big future profits.

  3. External Factors: Low interest rates (2020–2022) made stocks more attractive than bonds, pushing prices up.



Challenges of Intrinsic Value:

  • Hard to calculate for certain companies: Startups or biotech firms with no profits yet have an intrinsic value close to zero based on current earnings, yet their stock price may be high because investors are betting on a future breakthrough.

  • It's just an estimate: Intrinsic value relies on guesses about the future (growth rates, economic conditions), which can be wrong.

Is Intrinsic Value Useful?

  • Yes, for value investors: It helps find undervalued stocks (buying at a discount). Works great for stable companies like Coca-Cola or Walmart where earnings and assets are clear.

  • Less useful for growth investors: They focus less on current intrinsic value and more on future potential.

  • Market irrationality: The market can ignore intrinsic value for years—it can stay "irrational longer than you might expect."

Final Reminders:

  • Intrinsic value is a useful tool, but it is not perfect and doesn't always work.

  • Always do your own research or talk to a financial adviser.

  • Investing involves risk; you could lose money.








Wednesday, 17 December 2025

How to Tell When a Stock is Cheap/Expensive (Masterclass in Stock Valuation)




 

Comprehensive Summary: How to Value a Stock Like a Pro

Core Philosophy

Stock valuation isn't about absolute price (e.g., "Ford costs two Big Macs") but determining whether you're paying less than a business's intrinsic value. This requires multiple analytical approaches and always demands a Margin of Safety—a buffer for error, as famously championed by Benjamin Graham.

The Three Essential Valuation Methods

1. Relative Valuation (The "Comparison" Method)

  • What it is: Determining if a stock is cheap relative to its own history or its peers.

  • Key Tool: Price-to-Earnings (P/E) Ratio (Current Price / Earnings Per Share).

  • Process for Coca-Cola:

    1. Look Backwards: Coke's 10-year average forward P/E is ~23x.

    2. Look Sideways: The average forward P/E of its peer group (Pepsi, Dr. Pepper) is ~21.3x.

    3. Compare: With a current forward P/E of 24.3x, Coke appears slightly overvalued on a relative basis.

  • Powerful Insight: This process can reveal better opportunities. For example, peer AG Barr showed a potential 18-33% upside, making it a more attractive candidate than Coke at the time of analysis.

  • Major Limitation: Entire sectors can become overvalued (e.g., the 2000 Tech Bubble). A stock can be "cheap relative to peers" but still catastrophically expensive.

2. Intrinsic Valuation - Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) (The "Fundamental" Method)

  • What it is: Calculating the true worth of a business based on all the cash it will generate for shareholders in the future, discounted to today's dollars.

  • Guiding Principle (Warren Buffett): Answer three questions:

    1. How much cash? Forecast Free Cash Flow (FCF), not just earnings.

    2. When will you get it? Future cash is worth less than cash today. Apply a Discount Rate.

    3. How certain are you? Favor predictable businesses with a durable competitive advantage.

  • Critical Input - The Discount Rate: Use the 10-Year Treasury Yield + 3% as a baseline. With yields at ~4.5%, a 7.5% discount rate is appropriate. This is your personal "hurdle rate."

  • Result for Coca-Cola: Using a 7.5% rate, Coke's intrinsic value landed between $248-$320 billion, not offering a compelling margin of safety at its market price.

  • Buffett's Key Filter: He avoids complex, fast-changing businesses. For him, certainty isn't compensated for with a higher discount rate—it's a prerequisite for investment.

3. The Hybrid Model - Growth, Yield & Multiple Expansion

  • What it is: A practical model that projects total shareholder returns by combining revenue growth, margin changes, dividends/buybacks, and an expected future valuation multiple (e.g., P/E).

  • Advantage: More intuitive than a full DCF while still being forward-looking.

  • Applied to Coca-Cola: Assuming 4% growth, the model suggested a 6.2% annualized return, translating to a stock price of ~$91 by 2029.

  • Applied to AG Barr: The same process projected a 9.3% annualized return.

The Unifying Framework: Margin of Safety & Triangulation

  1. Calculate Your Required Return: Based on your discount rate (e.g., 7.5%).

  2. Compare to Expected Return: From your DCF or hybrid model.

  3. Quantify the Margin of Safety:

    • Example for AG Barr: Model expects 49% total return over 4.5 years. Your required return is 38%. The margin of safety is 1 - (38/49) = ~22%.

The Ultimate Takeaway (from Charlie Munger): No single model is perfect. Valuation is not a mechanical exercise but a process of triangulation. The most promising investments will appear attractive when viewed through multiple lenses—relative value, intrinsic DCF value, and a forward-looking returns model. Always insist on a margin of safety to protect yourself from the inevitable errors in prediction.


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Here is a summary of the video from 0:00 to 10:00:

Main Goal: Learn three methods to properly value a stock, using Coca-Cola as an example.


1. Introduction & Relative Valuation (P/E Ratio)

  • The Problem: Stock prices alone (e.g., Ford vs. Berkshire Hathaway) don't tell you if a stock is cheap or expensive.

  • Relative Valuation: The strategy is to buy stocks when they are cheaper than their historical averages or their peers, similar to trading items in a game like World of Warcraft by comparing prices.

  • The P/E Ratio: The most common valuation "multiple."

    • Definition: Price-to-Earnings ratio. It shows how many years of current earnings it would take to recoup your investment.

    • Example: Coca-Cola at ~$72 per share earning $2.5 per share has a trailing P/E of 28.8 ($72 / $2.5).

    • Forward P/E: Uses future earnings estimates, which for Coke is 24.3, indicating expected growth.

  • Applying Relative Valuation to Coca-Cola:

    • Historically (10-yr avg): Investors paid ~23x forward earnings for Coke.

    • Compared to Peers (Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, etc.): The peer group average forward P/E is ~21.3.

    • Conclusion: At a forward P/E of 24, Coke appears slightly overvalued compared to both its own history and its peers, suggesting a potential ~12% downside if it reverts to the peer average.

  • Finding a Better Opportunity (AG Barr):

    • Analysis of peer AG Barr shows it trades below its historical average and the peer group, indicating a potential 18-33% upside—a seemingly better deal than Coca-Cola.


2. The Margin of Safety

  • Concept (Benjamin Graham): Never buy a stock at its full intrinsic value. Always demand a discount to account for error and uncertainty.

  • Warren Buffett's View: The required margin of safety depends on business certainty.

    • For predictable, stable businesses like Coca-Cola or See's Candy, he doesn't need a "huge" margin and will buy at prices close to intrinsic value (though he prefers a 40% discount).

    • For unpredictable businesses, he avoids them rather than applying a larger margin.


3. Limitations of Relative Valuation

  • Sector-Wide Bubbles: If an entire industry is overpriced (e.g., tech in 2000), a stock can look cheap relative to peers but still be catastrophically overvalued.

  • Everything is Not Equal: Historical or peer comparisons can be misleading if the company's fundamentals (growth, competitive position) have changed.

  • Buffett's Warning: Metrics like P/E are not valuation in themselves; they are only useful as clues to future cash flows.

Key Takeaway (First 10 mins): Relative valuation (P/E analysis) is a useful first step to gauge if a stock is cheap, but it has significant pitfalls. It must be complemented by a method that focuses on the company's intrinsic value based on its future cash flows, which is introduced in the next part of the video (Discounted Cash Flow analysis).



Here is a summary of the video from 10:00 to 20:00:


Part 2: Discounted Cash Flow Analysis (DCF)

  • Core Principle: The intrinsic value of a business is the sum of all the cash it will generate in the future, discounted back to today's value.

  • Warren Buffett's Three Key Questions for any investment:

    1. How much cash are you going to get?

    2. When are you going to get it?

    3. How certain are you?

Step 1: Forecast Future Cash Flows (The "How Much")

  • Use Free Cash Flow (FCF), not earnings. FCF = Cash from Operations - Capital Expenditures. It's the actual cash available to shareholders.

  • For Coca-Cola: Historical FCF has been stable and growing at ~3.5% annually.

  • Forecast: Start with a reasonable base (~$10B). The video assumes a 4% annual growth rate for the next 10 years, reaching ~$14.8B in Year 10.

  • Terminal Value: To account for cash flows beyond 10 years, estimate a sale price (exit multiple) or use a perpetuity growth formula.

Step 2: Discount Future Cash to Present Value (The "When")

  • Money today is worth more than money tomorrow. Future cash must be "discounted."

  • Discount Rate: The rate used to calculate the present value of future cash. It's a critical, fuzzy variable.

  • Buffett's Guideline: The discount rate should be significantly higher than the risk-free rate (e.g., the 10-year Treasury yield). He suggests adding at least 200-300 basis points (2-3%).

  • Applied to Coke: With a 10-year Treasury at ~4.5%, a discount rate of 7.5% (4.5% + 3%) is used.

Step 3: Calculate Intrinsic Value

  • Using the 7.5% discount rate and an exit multiple (P/FCF of 33, based on Coke's historical median), the DCF values Coca-Cola at ~$320 billion.

  • Using the perpetuity growth method (3% perpetual growth), the value drops to ~$248 billion.

  • Conclusion for Coke: Neither method suggests Coke is a "screaming buy" at its current market price. The result is sensitive to the discount rate and terminal value assumption.

Applying DCF to AG Barr

  • With similar assumptions (3% growth, 7.5% discount), AG Barr's intrinsic value is estimated between £660-860 million.

  • This wasn't a clear buy at the time of filming, but the video notes it was closer to a buy (at £620M) just a few months prior, illustrating the need for patience.

Step 4: Assess Certainty (The "How Certain")

  • Look at the Past Record: A stable, predictable history (like Coca-Cola's) increases confidence in forecasts.

  • Buffett's Preference for "No Change": He seeks businesses resistant to major change, viewing change as a threat, not an opportunity. This is why he favors businesses like Coca-Cola over fast-changing tech firms, even if they miss out on some big winners.

  • Certainty as a Go/No-Go Factor: For Buffett, lack of predictability often disqualifies a business; he doesn't just compensate by using a higher discount rate.


Key Takeaway (10-20 mins): DCF is the fundamental method for calculating intrinsic value based on future cash flows. However, it relies heavily on subjective assumptions about growth, discount rates, and terminal value. For stable, predictable businesses with a long history (like Coca-Cola), DCF can be applied with more confidence.


Here is a summary of the video from 20:00 to the end (36:06):


Part 3: The Third Valuation Method & Conclusion

A. The Third "TIKR" Method: Growth + Dividends + Multiple

  • This is a hybrid, more accessible method that sits between simple multiples and complex DCF.

  • How it works: You input key drivers of shareholder return into a model:

    • Sales Growth

    • Operating Margins

    • Interest, Taxes, Buybacks, Dividends

    • A terminal Valuation Multiple (e.g., future P/E)

  • The TIKR Tool: The sponsor's platform automates these calculations, using 10 years of historical data and 5 years of analyst estimates as a starting point for your assumptions.

  • Applied to Coca-Cola: With a 4% growth assumption (aligning with analysts), the model values Coke at $91 per share by Dec 2029, implying a ~6.2% annual return.

  • Applied to AG Barr: The same process suggests a ~9.3% annual return.

B. Unifying the Methods with "Margin of Safety"

  • To decide if the expected return is good enough, compare it to your required return (the discount rate from the DCF).

  • Example Calculation for AG Barr:

    • Required Return (7.5% over 4.5 years): (1.075^4.5) - 1 ≈ 38% total return

    • Expected Return from Model (9.3% over 4.5 years): (1.093^4.5) - 1 ≈ 49% total return

    • Margin of Safety: 1 - (38/49) ≈ 22%. This is considered a decent margin for a stable business.

C. Key Conclusion: Triangulation is Essential

  • Charlie Munger's Wisdom: There is no single, mechanical formula that guarantees investing success. Valuation is a game played with multiple models and techniques, where experience is crucial.

  • The Best Approach: Use all three valuation lenses—Relative (P/E), Intrinsic (DCF), and the hybrid (Growth + Multiple) method—to triangulate on a company's value.

  • The Ideal Investment: A company that looks like a phenomenal opportunity no matter which valuation method you use.

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Final Takeaway: No single valuation method is perfect. A disciplined investor should use a combination of relative valuation, discounted cash flow analysis, and a practical growth/multiple model to build conviction and demand a margin of safety before investing.