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Showing posts with label growth investing. Show all posts
Showing posts with label growth investing. Show all posts
Tuesday 4 March 2014
Saturday 14 September 2013
Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits by Philip Fisher
Published on 6 Jun 2013
Widely respected and admired, Philip Fisher is among the most influential investors of all time. His investment philosophies, introduced almost forty years ago, are not only studied and applied by today's financiers and investors, but are also regarded by many as gospel. This book is invaluable reading and has been since it was first published in 1958. The updated paperback retains the investment wisdom of the original edition and includes the perspectives of the author's son Ken Fisher, an investment guru in his own right in an expanded preface and introduction
"I sought out Phil Fisher after reading his Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits...A thorough understanding of the business, obtained by using Phil's techniques...enables one to make intelligent investment commitments."
Warren Buffet
"I sought out Phil Fisher after reading his Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits...A thorough understanding of the business, obtained by using Phil's techniques...enables one to make intelligent investment commitments."
Warren Buffet
Tuesday 10 September 2013
Intrinsic value of Great Businesses: What's the business actually worth? Think long-term.
Company OPX
52 week high: $52.99 (April 2010) Market cap $960 million
52 week low: $33.33 (July 2010) Market cap $ 625 million
Variance: 35.2%
1. Is the market really suggesting that this business was worth $960 million in April 2010, but only $625 million the following July?
2. Yes, this is exactly what the market is suggesting.
3. What's the business actually worth?
4. Because it ought to be obvious that a fast-growing company cannot be worth $625 million and $960 million at roughly the same time.
5. Our goal as investor is to buy $960 million businesses when the market's charging $625 million.
6. If you think these things don't happen, be assured: They happen all the time.
7. It is even better when we can buy a $500 million business for $300 million and watch the company grow into a $3 billion business.
8. It is this effect - the fact that great businesses make themselves more valuable over time - that keeps us from selling a $500 million business when its market cap increases to $600 million.
9. After all, the $500 million valuation is based on our own analysis, and mathematically speaking, it's our single point of highest confidence in a range of values we believe the company could be worth.
10. It might be substantially more.
11. If you're disciplined enough to only buy companies when they are priced at the low end of your range of potential values, your returns over time are almost guaranteed to satisfy.
12. Holding a company when it's in the higher end of your range of values leaves you somewhat susceptible to a stock drop, given the lower margin of safety.
13. But if you have properly identified the company as a superior generator of wealth, the biggest mistake you might ever make is selling it because its shares are a few dollars too high.
14. If you bough company OPX back in December 1987, for example, your shares rose 75%, from $23 to $40 in about two months.
15. That's great return - but over the next 20 years, the stock has risen another seven times in value - tax free.
16. Ultimately, it is nearly impossible to manage superior long-term results by focusing on short-term aims.
17. Company OPX has evolved from a regional small cap into one of the most important retailers in the world, generating spectacular returns for shareholders in the process.
52 week high: $52.99 (April 2010) Market cap $960 million
52 week low: $33.33 (July 2010) Market cap $ 625 million
Variance: 35.2%
1. Is the market really suggesting that this business was worth $960 million in April 2010, but only $625 million the following July?
2. Yes, this is exactly what the market is suggesting.
4. Because it ought to be obvious that a fast-growing company cannot be worth $625 million and $960 million at roughly the same time.
5. Our goal as investor is to buy $960 million businesses when the market's charging $625 million.
6. If you think these things don't happen, be assured: They happen all the time.
7. It is even better when we can buy a $500 million business for $300 million and watch the company grow into a $3 billion business.
8. It is this effect - the fact that great businesses make themselves more valuable over time - that keeps us from selling a $500 million business when its market cap increases to $600 million.
9. After all, the $500 million valuation is based on our own analysis, and mathematically speaking, it's our single point of highest confidence in a range of values we believe the company could be worth.
10. It might be substantially more.
11. If you're disciplined enough to only buy companies when they are priced at the low end of your range of potential values, your returns over time are almost guaranteed to satisfy.
12. Holding a company when it's in the higher end of your range of values leaves you somewhat susceptible to a stock drop, given the lower margin of safety.
13. But if you have properly identified the company as a superior generator of wealth, the biggest mistake you might ever make is selling it because its shares are a few dollars too high.
14. If you bough company OPX back in December 1987, for example, your shares rose 75%, from $23 to $40 in about two months.
15. That's great return - but over the next 20 years, the stock has risen another seven times in value - tax free.
16. Ultimately, it is nearly impossible to manage superior long-term results by focusing on short-term aims.
17. Company OPX has evolved from a regional small cap into one of the most important retailers in the world, generating spectacular returns for shareholders in the process.
Wednesday 19 June 2013
Growth or the lack of it, is integral to a valuation exercise
The value of a business, a share of stock or any other productive asset is the present value of its future cash flows.
However, value is easier to define than to measure (easier said than done).
Valuing a business (or any productive asset) requires estimating its future performance and discounting the results to present value. The probable future performance includes whatever GROWTH (or SHRINKAGE) is ASSUMED.
SO GROWTH (OR LACK OF IT) IS INTEGRAL TO A VALUATION EXERCISE.
This supports the point that the phrase value investing is redundant. Investing is the deliberate determination that one pays a price lower than the value being obtained. Only speculators pay a price hoping that through growth the value rises above it.
Growth doesn't equate directly with value either.
Growing earnings can mean growing value. But growing earnings can also mean growing expenses, and sometimes expenses growing faster than revenues. Growth adds value only when the payoff from growth is greater than the cost of growth.
A company reinvesting a dollar of earnings to grow by 99 cents is not helping its shareholders and is not a value stock, though it may be a growth stock.
Value investing is conventionally defined as buying companies bearing low ratios of price-to-earnings, price-to-book value, or high dividend yields. But these metrics do not by themselves make a company a value investment. It isn't that simple. Nor does the absence of such metrics prevent an investment from bearing a sufficient margin of safety and qualitative virtues to justify its inclusion in a value investor's portfolio.
However, value is easier to define than to measure (easier said than done).
Valuing a business (or any productive asset) requires estimating its future performance and discounting the results to present value. The probable future performance includes whatever GROWTH (or SHRINKAGE) is ASSUMED.
SO GROWTH (OR LACK OF IT) IS INTEGRAL TO A VALUATION EXERCISE.
This supports the point that the phrase value investing is redundant. Investing is the deliberate determination that one pays a price lower than the value being obtained. Only speculators pay a price hoping that through growth the value rises above it.
Growth doesn't equate directly with value either.
Growing earnings can mean growing value. But growing earnings can also mean growing expenses, and sometimes expenses growing faster than revenues. Growth adds value only when the payoff from growth is greater than the cost of growth.
A company reinvesting a dollar of earnings to grow by 99 cents is not helping its shareholders and is not a value stock, though it may be a growth stock.
Value investing is conventionally defined as buying companies bearing low ratios of price-to-earnings, price-to-book value, or high dividend yields. But these metrics do not by themselves make a company a value investment. It isn't that simple. Nor does the absence of such metrics prevent an investment from bearing a sufficient margin of safety and qualitative virtues to justify its inclusion in a value investor's portfolio.
Thursday 28 March 2013
Philip Fisher’s Investment Philosophy
•Philip
Fisher’s Investment Philosophy
•Introduction
•The late Phil Fisher was
one of the great investors of all time and the author of the classic book Common
Stocks
and Uncommon Profits.
•Introduction
•Fisher started his money
management firm, Fisher & Co., in 1931 and over the next seven decades made
tremendous amounts of money for his clients.
•Introduction
•For example, he was an
early investor in semiconductor giant
Texas Instruments TXN.
•Fisher also purchased Motorola
MOT in 1955, and in a
testament to long-term investing, held the stock until
his death in 2004.
•Introduction
•"Common
Stocks and Uncommon Profits" - is a MUST READ!
•Fisher's Investment Philosophy
•Fisher's investment philosophy
can be summarized in a single sentence: Purchase
and hold for the long term a concentrated portfolio of outstanding
companies with compelling growth
prospects that you understand very
well.
•Fisher's Investment Philosophy
•This sentence is clear on
its face, but let us parse it carefully to understand the advantages of Fisher's
approach.
•Fisher's Investment Philosophy
•The question that every
investor faces is, of course, WHAT
to buy? - and - WHEN to buy it?
•Fisher's answer is to purchase
the shares of superbly managed growth companies, and he devoted an
entire chapter in Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits to this topic.
•Fisher's Investment Philosophy
•The chapter begins with a
comparison of "statistical
bargains,"
or stocks that appear cheap based solely on accounting figures, and growth
stocks, or stocks with
excellent growth prospects based on an intelligent appraisal of the underlying
business's characteristics.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy –
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
•The problem with
statistical bargains, Fisher noted, is that while there may be some
genuine bargains to
be found, in many cases the businesses face
daunting headwinds that cannot be discerned from accounting figures, such that
in a few years the current "bargain" prices will have proved to be
very high.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy –
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
•Furthermore, Fisher stated that
over a period of many years, a well-selected
growth stock will substantially outperform a
statistical bargain.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy –
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
The Problem with Statistical Bargains
•The reason
for this disparity,
Fisher wrote, is that a growth stock, whose intrinsic value grows steadily over
time, will tend to appreciate
"hundreds of per cent each decade," while it is unusual for a statistical bargain to be
"as much as 50 per cent undervalued.”
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•Fisher divided the universe
of growth stocks into large and small
companies.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•On one end of the
spectrum are large financially strong companies with solid growth prospects.
•At the time, these
included IBM (IBM), Dow Chemical (DOW), and DuPont (DD), all of which increased
fivefold in the 10-year period from 1946 to 1956.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•Although such returns are
quite satisfactory, the real home runs
are to be found in "small and frequently young
companies...
[with] products that might bring a sensational future.”
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•Of these companies,
Fisher wrote, "the young growth stock offers by far the greatest
possibility of gain.
•Sometimes this can mount
up to several thousand per cent in a decade.”
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•Fisher's answer to the
question of what to buy is clear:
•All else equal, investors with
the time and inclination should concentrate their
efforts on uncovering young
companies with outstanding growth
prospects.
•Fisher’s
Investment Philosophy – The Universe of Growth Stocks
•Remember - much has changed -
therefore YOU must integrate "today's" Economics and Financial
Markets in with Mr. Fisher's Philosophy!
•Fisher's
15 Points
•All good principles are
timeless, and Fisher's famous
"Fifteen Points to Look for in a Common Stock" from Common
Stocks and Uncommon Profits remain as relevant today as when they were first
published.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•The 15 points are a qualitative
guide to finding
superbly managed companies with excellent growth
prospects.
•According to Fisher, a company must
qualify on most of these 15 points to be considered a worthwhile investment:
•Fisher's
15 Points
•1. Does
the company have products or services with sufficient market potential to make
possible a sizable increase in sales for at least several years?
•A company seeking a
sustained period of spectacular growth must have products
that address large and expanding markets.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•2. Does
the management have a determination to continue to develop products or
processes that will still further increase total sales potentials when the
growth potentials of currently attractive product lines have largely been
exploited?
•All markets eventually
mature, and to maintain
above-average growth over a period of decades, a company must continually
develop new products to either expand existing markets or enter new ones.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•3. How
effective are the company's research-and-development efforts in relation to its
size?
•To develop new products,
a company's research-and-development (R&D) effort must be both
efficient and effective.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•4. Does
the company have an above-average sales organization?
•Fisher wrote that in a competitive
environment, few products or
services are so compelling that they will sell to their maximum
potential without
expert merchandising.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•5. Does
the company have a worthwhile profit margin?
•Berkshire Hathaway's (BRK.B)
vice-chairman Charlie Munger is fond of saying that
if something is not worth doing, it is not worth doing well. Similarly, a company
can show tremendous growth, but the growth must bring
worthwhile profits to reward investors.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•6. What
is the company doing to maintain or improve profit margins?
•Fisher stated, "It is
not the profit margin of the past but those of the future that are basically
important to the investor." Because inflation increases a company's
expenses and competitors will pressure profit margins, you should pay
attention to a company's strategy for reducing costs and improving profit
margins over the long haul. This is where the moat framework can be a big help.
•Fisher's
15 Points
•7. Does
the company have outstanding labor and personnel relations?
•According to Fisher, a company with
good labor relations tends to be more profitable than one with
mediocre relations because happy employees are
likely to be more productive. There is no single yardstick to measure the state of a
company's labor relations, but there are a few items investors should
investigate. First, companies with good labor relations usually make
every effort to settle employee grievances quickly. In addition, a
company that makes above-average profits, even while paying above-average wages
to its employees is likely to have good labor relations. Finally, investors
should pay attention to the attitude of top management toward
employees.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•8. Does
the company have outstanding executive relations?
•Just as having good
employee relations is important, a company must also cultivate the
right atmosphere in its executive suite. Fisher
noted that in companies where the founding family retains control, family
members should not be promoted ahead of more able
executives. In addition, executive salaries
should be at least in line with industry norms. Salaries should
also be reviewed regularly so that merited pay increases
are given without having to be demanded.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•9. Does
the company have depth to its management?
•As a company continues
to grow over a span of decades, it is vital that a deep pool of
management talent be properly developed. Fisher warned investors to avoid companies where
top management is reluctant to delegate significant authority to lower-level
managers.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•10. How
good are the company's cost analysis and accounting controls?
•A company cannot
deliver outstanding results over the long term if it is unable to
closely track costs in each step of its operations. Fisher stated that
getting a precise handle on a company's cost analysis is difficult, but an
investor can discern which companies are exceptionally deficient--these are the
companies to avoid.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•11. Are
there other aspects of the business, somewhat peculiar to the industry
involved, which will give the investor important clues as to how outstanding
the company may be in relation to its competition?
•Fisher described this point
as a catch-all because the "important
clues" will vary widely among industries. The skill with which
a retailer, like Wal-Mart (WMT) or Costco (COST), handles
its merchandising and inventory is of paramount importance. However, in an
industry such as insurance, a completely different
set of business factors is important. It is critical for an investor to understand
which industry factors determine the success of a company and how that company
stacks up in relation to its rivals.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•12. Does
the company have a short-range or long-range outlook in regard to profits?
•Fisher argued that investors
should take a long-range view, and thus should favor companies that take a long-range
view on profits. In addition, companies focused on
meeting Wall Street's quarterly earnings estimates may forgo beneficial
long-term actions if
they cause a short-term hit to earnings. Even worse, management may be tempted
to make aggressive accounting assumptions in order to
report an acceptable quarterly profit number.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•13. In
the foreseeable future will the growth of the company require sufficient equity
financing so that the larger number of shares then outstanding will largely
cancel the existing stockholders' benefit from this anticipated growth?
•As an investor, you
should seek companies with sufficient cash or borrowing
capacity to fund growth without diluting the interests of its current owners with follow-on equity
offerings.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•14. Does
management talk freely to investors about its affairs when things are going
well but "clam up" when troubles and disappointments occur?
•Every business, no matter
how wonderful, will occasionally face disappointments. Investors should seek
out management that reports candidly to shareholders all aspects of the
business, good or bad.
•Fisher's 15 Points
•15. Does
the company have a management of unquestionable integrity?
•The accounting scandals
that led to the bankruptcies of Enron and WorldCom should highlight the
importance of investing only with management teams of unquestionable integrity.
Investors will be
well-served by following Fisher's warning that regardless of how
highly a company rates on the other 14 points, "If there is a serious
question of the lack of a strong management sense of trusteeship for
shareholders, the investor should never seriously consider participating in
such an enterprise.”
•Important
Don'ts for Investors
•In investing, the
actions you don't take are as important as the actions you do
take.
•Here is some of Fisher's
advice on what you should not do.
•Important
Don'ts for Investors
•1.
Don't overstress diversification.
•2.
Don't follow the crowd.
•3.
Don't quibble over eighths and quarters.
•
•
•
•1.
Don't overstress diversification.
•Investment advisors and the
financial media constantly expound the virtues of diversification with the help
of a catchy cliché: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket."
•However, as Fisher noted,
once you start putting your eggs in a multitude of baskets, not
all of them end up in attractive places, and it becomes difficult to keep
track of all your eggs.
•1.
Don't overstress diversification.
•Fisher, who owned at most
only 30 stocks at any point in his career, had a better solution.
•Spend
time thoroughly researching and understanding a company,
and if it clearly
meets the 15 points he set forth, you should make a meaningful
investment.
•1.
Don't overstress diversification.
•Fisher would agree with Mark
Twain when he said, "Put all your
eggs in one basket, and watch that basket!”
•2.
Don't follow the crowd.
•Following
the crowds into investment fads, such as the
"Nifty Fifty" in the early 1970s or tech stocks in the late 1990s,
can be dangerous to your financial health.
•2.
Don't follow the crowd.
•On the flip side, searching
in areas the crowd has left behind can be extremely profitable.
•2.
Don't follow the crowd.
•Sir Isaac Newton once
lamented that he could calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the
madness of crowds. Fisher would heartily agree.
•3.
Don't quibble over eighths and quarters.
•After extensive research,
you've found a company that you think will prosper in the decades ahead, and
the stock is currently selling at a reasonable price.
•Should
you delay or forgo your investment to wait for a price a
few pennies below the current price?
•3.
Don't quibble over eighths and quarters.
•Fisher told the story of a
skilled investor who wanted to purchase shares in a particular company whose
stock closed that day at $35.50 per share.
•However, the investor
refused to pay more than $35.
•The stock never again sold at
$35 and over the next 25 years, increased in value to more than $500
per share.
•The
investor missed out on a tremendous gain in a vain
attempt to save 50 cents per share.
•3.
Don't quibble over eighths and quarters.
•Even Warren Buffett is
prone to this type of mental error.
•Buffett began purchasing
Wal-Mart many years ago, but stopped buying when the price moved up a little.
•Buffett admits that this
mistake cost Berkshire Hathaway shareholders about $10 billion.
•Even the Oracle of Omaha
could have benefited from Fisher's advice not
to quibble over eighths and quarters.
•The
Bottom Line
•Philip Fisher compiled a
sterling record during his seven-decade career by investing
in young companies with bright growth prospects.
•By applying Fisher's
methods, you, too, can uncover tomorrow's dominant companies.
•Q&A
•There is only one
correct answer to each question.
•Q&A
•Fisher was the author of
which classic investment book?
–Security Analysis.
–One Up on Wall
Street.
–Common Stocks and
Uncommon Profits.
•Q&A
•What sorts of companies
did Fisher favor?
–Young growth
companies.
–Companies with large
dividends.
–Companies in mature
industries.
•Q&A
•Fisher's time horizon for
holding a well-selected stock can best be described as what?
–Very long-term.
–Short-term.
–Three to five years.
•Q&A
•Which statement would
Fisher most agree with?
–"I don't want a
lot of good investments; I want a few outstanding ones."
–"It is important
to own a well-diversified portfolio of over 50 stocks to reduce risk."
–"Large
capitalization companies in mature and steady industries are the best
investments.”
•Q&A
•According to Fisher, management
quality:
–Is irrelevent so long as the
company is growing.
–Should cause you to
avoid a stock if there are serious stewardship issues.
–Should not delegate
to lower-level employees.
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Saturday 22 December 2012
Be conservative in your estimates for future growth.
Never estimate future earnings growth:
Be conservative in your estimates for future growth. It's always better to underestimate than to overestimate.
- to exceed the growth of sales
- to exceed 20 percent
- to exceed its historical growth rate
- to exceed the analysts' estimates.
Be conservative in your estimates for future growth. It's always better to underestimate than to overestimate.
Friday 21 December 2012
Confine your study to companies with good sales or earnings growth.
Don't bother to continue with a stock study if sales or earnings growth is inadequate.
Sales growth is inadequate if it is below the guidelines for the size of the company you are studying (ranging from around 7 percent for a large company to 12 percent for a smaller one).
Earnings growth should be around 15 percent or better; but you can accept slower growth from companies whose dividends contribute substantially to the total return.
Sales growth is inadequate if it is below the guidelines for the size of the company you are studying (ranging from around 7 percent for a large company to 12 percent for a smaller one).
Earnings growth should be around 15 percent or better; but you can accept slower growth from companies whose dividends contribute substantially to the total return.
Saturday 24 November 2012
The Technique of Fundamental Analysis
Fundamental analysts believe that the market is 90% logical and only 10% psychological. Value is related to a company's assets, its expected growth rate of earnings and dividends, interest rates, and risk. By studying these factors, the fundamentalist arrives at an estimate of a security's intrinsic value or firm foundation of value.
Fundamentalists believe that eventually the market will reflect the security's real worth.
The fundamentalist strives to be relatively immune to the optimism and pessimism of the crowd and makes a sharp distinction between a stock's current price and its true value.
In estimating the firm-foundation value of a stock, the fundamentalist's most important job is to estimate the firm's future stream of earnings and dividends. The worth of a share is taken to be the present or discounted value of all the cash flows the investor is expected to receive. The analyst must estimate the firm's sales level, operating costs, tax rates, depreciation, and the sources and costs of its capital requirements.
The fundamentalist uses four basic determinants to help estimate the proper value for any stock.
1. The expected growth rate.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share the larger the growth rate of dividends and earnings.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share the longer an extraordinary growth rate is expected to last.
2. The expected dividend payout.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the larger the proportion of a company;s earnings that is paid out in cash dividends.
3. The degree of risk.
Rule: A rational (and risk averse) investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the less risky the company's stock.
4. The level of market interest rates.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the lower the interest rates.
The above valuation rules imply that a security's firm-foundation value (and its price-earnings multiple) will be higher
Why might fundamental analysis fail to work?
There are three potential flaws in this type of analysis.
1. The information and analysis may be incorrect.
2. The security analyst's estimate of "value" maybe faulty.
3. The market may not correct its "mistakes", and the stock price may not converge to its value estimate.
Fundamentalists believe that eventually the market will reflect the security's real worth.
The fundamentalist strives to be relatively immune to the optimism and pessimism of the crowd and makes a sharp distinction between a stock's current price and its true value.
In estimating the firm-foundation value of a stock, the fundamentalist's most important job is to estimate the firm's future stream of earnings and dividends. The worth of a share is taken to be the present or discounted value of all the cash flows the investor is expected to receive. The analyst must estimate the firm's sales level, operating costs, tax rates, depreciation, and the sources and costs of its capital requirements.
The fundamentalist uses four basic determinants to help estimate the proper value for any stock.
1. The expected growth rate.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share the larger the growth rate of dividends and earnings.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share the longer an extraordinary growth rate is expected to last.
2. The expected dividend payout.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the larger the proportion of a company;s earnings that is paid out in cash dividends.
3. The degree of risk.
Rule: A rational (and risk averse) investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the less risky the company's stock.
4. The level of market interest rates.
Rule: A rational investor should be willing to pay a higher price for a share, other things being equal, the lower the interest rates.
The above valuation rules imply that a security's firm-foundation value (and its price-earnings multiple) will be higher
- the larger the company's growth rate and the longer its duration;
- the larger the dividend payout for the firm;
- the less risky the company's stocks; and
- the lower the general level of interest rates.
In principle, such rules are very useful in suggesting a rational basis for stock prices and in giving investors some standard of value. But before using these rules, bear in mind the following caveats.
1. Expectations about the future cannot be proven in the present.
Predicting future earnings and dividends is a most hazardous occupation. It is extremely difficult to be objective; wild optimism and extreme pessimism constantly battle for top place. "Forecasts are difficult to make - particularly those about the future."
2. Precise figures cannot be calculated from undetermined data.
There is always some combination of growth rate and growth period that will produce any specific price. In this sense, it is intrinsically impossible, given human nature, to calculate the intrinsic value of a share.
The point to remember is that the mathematical precision of fundamental value formulas is based on treacherous ground: forecasting the future. "God Almighty does not know the proper price-earnings multiple for a common stock."
3. What's growth for the goose is not always growth for the gander.
It is always true that the market values growth, and that higher growth rates and larger multiples go hand in hand. But the crucial question is: How much more should you pay for higher growth?
There is no consistent answer. In some periods, the market was willing to pay an enormous price for stocks exhibiting high growth rates. At other times, high growth stocks commanded only a modest premium over the multiples of common stocks in general. Growth can be as fashionable as tulip bulbs, as investors in growth stocks painfully learned.
From a practical standpoint, the rapid changes in market valuations that have occurred suggest that it would be very dangerous to use any one year's valuation relationships as an indication of market norms. However, by comparing how growth stocks are currently valued with historical precedent, the investor should at least be able to isolate those periods when a touch of the tulip bug has smitten investors.
Why might fundamental analysis fail to work?
There are three potential flaws in this type of analysis.
1. The information and analysis may be incorrect.
2. The security analyst's estimate of "value" maybe faulty.
3. The market may not correct its "mistakes", and the stock price may not converge to its value estimate.
Tuesday 16 October 2012
How do you value this company OPQ?
I have been looking at this company. Its business is doing very well. It has grown its revenues, profit before tax and earnings consistently over many years. Its business is growing due to its excellent products and marketing.
Its PBT margin and net profit margins have grown over the years from single digits to double digits. It latest PBT margin and net profit margins were 17.4% and 13% respectively. Its ROE is consistently above 30% for many quarters and the last few years. It DPO ratio averages 70%.
(A) Calculating the value of this company today.
How would you value the earnings and dividends of this company?
Using the thinking similar to that of Buffett:
1. The risk free interest rate offered by the banks is 4% per year.
2. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $110 million per year?
3. Answer: $110 million / 4% = $2750 million.
4. This company pays out 70%+ of its earnings as dividends, i.e. about $77 million.
5. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $77 million at present prevailing interest rate of 4% per year?
6. Answer: $77 million / 4% = $1925 million.
7. A fixed deposit gives you a fixed interest rate of the same amount every year, assuming that the interest rate paid remains unchanged.
8. On the other hand, this company's earnings are expected to grow quite fast in the coming years.
9. Assuming that this company can grow its earnings at 2% per year for the next few years, with a high degree of predictability, how would you value this company?
10. Let's continue with the analogy above.
11. With its earnings of $ 110 million, growing at 2% per year, you will need to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 110 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 5500 million.
12. With its dividend of $ 77 million, growing at 2% per year, you will similarly have to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 77 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 3850 million.
To summarise:
Assuming no growth in its earnings or dividends, and using 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of
- the earnings stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 2750 million.
- the dividends stream is the equivalent to an asset of $1925 million.
When growth is factored into the earnings and dividends stream, even at a low rate of growth of 2% and still using the 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of:
- the earnings stream is $ 5500 million.
- the dividends stream is $ 3850 million.
This company's market capitalization was $ 3200 million recently. Assuming no growth in the earnings of this company, the value of this company is anywhere between $1925 million (this price is supported by its dividend yield) and $ 2750 million (supported by its earning yield).
At $ 3200 million, its reward:risk ratio is against the investor as the current price of this company is higher than your calculated intrinsic value of $ 2750 million.
Since, this company is projected to grow its earnings with a high degree of predictability in the future, will you buy this company at its current price of $ 3200 million?
Its PBT margin and net profit margins have grown over the years from single digits to double digits. It latest PBT margin and net profit margins were 17.4% and 13% respectively. Its ROE is consistently above 30% for many quarters and the last few years. It DPO ratio averages 70%.
Its latest trailing-twelve months earnings was $110 million and its market capitalisation recently was $ 3200 million. It is projected that it will probably deliver $130 million in this financial year with a high degree of predictability.
(A) Calculating the value of this company today.
How would you value the earnings and dividends of this company?
Using the thinking similar to that of Buffett:
1. The risk free interest rate offered by the banks is 4% per year.
2. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $110 million per year?
3. Answer: $110 million / 4% = $2750 million.
4. This company pays out 70%+ of its earnings as dividends, i.e. about $77 million.
5. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $77 million at present prevailing interest rate of 4% per year?
6. Answer: $77 million / 4% = $1925 million.
7. A fixed deposit gives you a fixed interest rate of the same amount every year, assuming that the interest rate paid remains unchanged.
8. On the other hand, this company's earnings are expected to grow quite fast in the coming years.
9. Assuming that this company can grow its earnings at 2% per year for the next few years, with a high degree of predictability, how would you value this company?
10. Let's continue with the analogy above.
11. With its earnings of $ 110 million, growing at 2% per year, you will need to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 110 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 5500 million.
12. With its dividend of $ 77 million, growing at 2% per year, you will similarly have to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 77 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 3850 million.
To summarise:
Assuming no growth in its earnings or dividends, and using 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of
- the earnings stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 2750 million.
- the dividends stream is the equivalent to an asset of $1925 million.
When growth is factored into the earnings and dividends stream, even at a low rate of growth of 2% and still using the 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of:
- the earnings stream is $ 5500 million.
- the dividends stream is $ 3850 million.
This company's market capitalization was $ 3200 million recently. Assuming no growth in the earnings of this company, the value of this company is anywhere between $1925 million (this price is supported by its dividend yield) and $ 2750 million (supported by its earning yield).
At $ 3200 million, its reward:risk ratio is against the investor as the current price of this company is higher than your calculated intrinsic value of $ 2750 million.
(B) Calculating the value of this company at the end of this financial year, using (projected earnings and dividends).
However, it is projected that this company will deliver $ 130 million in earnings and at DPO of 70%, $91 million in dividends.
Let's recalculate the values you will place on these earnings stream and dividend streams.
How would you value the earnings and dividends of this company?
Using the thinking similar to that of Buffett:
1. The risk free interest rate offered by the banks is 4% per year.
2. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $130 million per year?
3. Answer: $130 million / 4% = $ 3250 million.
4. This company pays out 70%+ of its earnings as dividends, i.e. about $91 million.
5. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $91 million at present prevailing interest rate of 4% per year?
6. Answer: $91 million / 4% = $ 2275 million.
7. A fixed deposit gives you a fixed interest rate of the same amount every year, assuming that the interest rate paid remains unchanged.
8. On the other hand, this company's earnings are expected to grow quite fast in the coming years.
9. Assuming that this company can grow its earnings at 2% per year for the next few years, with a high degree of predictability, how would you value this company?
10. Let's continue with the analogy above.
11. With its earnings of $ 130 million, growing at 2% per year, you will need to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 130 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 6500 million.
12. With its dividend of $ 91million, growing at 2% per year, you will similarly have to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 91 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 4550 million.
Using the thinking similar to that of Buffett:
1. The risk free interest rate offered by the banks is 4% per year.
2. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $130 million per year?
3. Answer: $130 million / 4% = $ 3250 million.
4. This company pays out 70%+ of its earnings as dividends, i.e. about $91 million.
5. How much deposit would you need to put in the bank to earn $91 million at present prevailing interest rate of 4% per year?
6. Answer: $91 million / 4% = $ 2275 million.
7. A fixed deposit gives you a fixed interest rate of the same amount every year, assuming that the interest rate paid remains unchanged.
8. On the other hand, this company's earnings are expected to grow quite fast in the coming years.
9. Assuming that this company can grow its earnings at 2% per year for the next few years, with a high degree of predictability, how would you value this company?
10. Let's continue with the analogy above.
11. With its earnings of $ 130 million, growing at 2% per year, you will need to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 130 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 6500 million.
12. With its dividend of $ 91million, growing at 2% per year, you will similarly have to have a fixed deposit of the equivalent of $ 91 million / (4% - 2%) = $ 4550 million.
To summarise:
Assuming no growth in its earnings or dividends, and using 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of
- the earnings stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 3250 million.
- the dividends stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 2275 million.
When growth is factored into the earnings and dividends stream, even at a low rate of growth of 2% and still using the 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of:
- the earnings stream is $ 6500 million.
- the dividends stream is $ 4550 million.
This company's market capitalization was $ 3200 million recently. Assuming no growth in the earnings of this company, the value of this company is anywhere between $ 3250 million (this price is supported by its dividend yield) and $ 2275 million (supported by its earning yield), at the end of its financial year..
At $ 3200 million, it is priced close to the calculated intrinsic value for the company in the end of its financial year of $ 3250 million. There is little margin of safety as demanded by Benjamin Graham in his teaching. The upside reward = 50 million and the downside risk = 925 million, that is, a reward;risk ratio = 1 : 18.5.
But what if you also factored in the strong growth of this company? What would be its intrinsic value?
Assuming no growth in its earnings or dividends, and using 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of
- the earnings stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 3250 million.
- the dividends stream is the equivalent to an asset of $ 2275 million.
When growth is factored into the earnings and dividends stream, even at a low rate of growth of 2% and still using the 4% risk free interest rate as the discount factor, the present values of:
- the earnings stream is $ 6500 million.
- the dividends stream is $ 4550 million.
This company's market capitalization was $ 3200 million recently. Assuming no growth in the earnings of this company, the value of this company is anywhere between $ 3250 million (this price is supported by its dividend yield) and $ 2275 million (supported by its earning yield), at the end of its financial year..
At $ 3200 million, it is priced close to the calculated intrinsic value for the company in the end of its financial year of $ 3250 million. There is little margin of safety as demanded by Benjamin Graham in his teaching. The upside reward = 50 million and the downside risk = 925 million, that is, a reward;risk ratio = 1 : 18.5.
But what if you also factored in the strong growth of this company? What would be its intrinsic value?
Conclusion:
Since, this company is projected to grow its earnings with a high degree of predictability in the future, will you buy this company at its current price of $ 3200 million?
Those with a short term perspective in their "investing" will realise that the current price has priced in the growth expected for this financial year.
However, for those with a longer term perspective in their investing, for example 5 years, they will realise that the earnings of this company will continue to grow consistently and predictably. Considering the earnings growth potential, and including this factor into their calculation of intrinsic value, they may rightly be of the opinion that this company is indeed undervalued.
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