Showing posts with label tan teng boo. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tan teng boo. Show all posts

Monday 14 June 2010

Another look at AhYap's concern over the performance fees of i Capital Global Fund & i Capital International Value Fund

Capital Dynamics aka Tan Teng Boo wrote in his latest newsletter on the performance fees charged for his managed funds.  He elaborated on the 20% performance fee structure of the i Capital global funds.

To earn the performance fee, Capital Dynamics must deliver net returns of 6% on (1) a single year and (2) on a compound bases.  The 2nd hurdle rate is actually on a COMPOUNDED basis.  He pointed out how tough it is to compound 6% per annum PERPETUALLY.

He lamented how some supposedly smart investors do not even know that this 6% compound hurdle rate is a high water mark and that it is the toughest high water mark anywhere in the world.  In his newsletter:  "Any investor who scoffs at 6% compounding is either dangerous gambler or a conman."

There was a recent write-up in AhYap's blog stating his concern over the hurdles used by Capital Dynamics and how these severely impaired the returns of those who are invested in their funds; particularly during periods of high volatilities.

Perhaps, there should be added:  1 further hurdle and 1 extra condition.

(1)  A third hurdle that the performance fee is only charged when the NAV per unit of the fund exceeds the highest reached in previous years.


(2)  Another condition is on how the 20% performance fee is calculated.  This calculation should not be solely based on last year's NAV.  The 20% performance fee can be based on either the excess return above the 1st hurdle, the 2nd hurdle or the 3rd hurdle; always using the lowest excess value of these 3 hurdles in calculating the performance return.

In my opinion, AhYap's argument is sound, reasonable and his concern is valid.  Capital Dynamics has not addressed this concern adequately.  Hopefully, they will.  Will they?


An example using the 3 hurdles approach and calculating the performance fee based on the lowest excess value of these 3 hurdles.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AuRRzs61sKqRdFZFTkRqUU1HYWpOeXNaam42OWp2TFE&hl=en&output=html

Also read:

Performance fees warning



Saturday 1 May 2010

Now, Mr Tan Teng Boo has so many things to sell you other than his newsletter.


Tan Teng BooA few years ago, Tan Teng Boo had only one thing to sell you, his newsletter.
Later he launched his first public fund known as theiCapital.biz Berhad (ICAP) listed in KLSE which I did a long review long long time ago. [iCAP review]
But last few years, he subsequently launched 2 other funds to sell to you, namely the iCapital Global Fund and theiCapital International Value Fund.
Due the the iCapital Global Fund big minimum investment requirement (USD200k!), many are kept out of the boat and so he launched his “International” fund in Australia later that requires only AUD20,000 minimum, so more people can join the “global investing” boat.
Now, Mr Tan has so many things to sell you other than his newsletter.
Some of these stuffs are good stuffs to buy, some are …


Quote: 'Profit from the information and inefficiencies of the market'

Thursday 15 April 2010

TAN TENG BOO: Top fund manager expects 30-40% gain next year

TAN TENG BOO: Top fund manager expects 30-40% gain next year

Written by Leong Chan Teik
Thursday, 12 November 2009

IF YOU have not heard of Tan Teng Boo before, you will find that he quickly shines through in an article in the current edition of The Edge newsweekly.

He is 55, and a Malaysian fund manager. His iCapital Global Fund has gained 64% this year as at end-September, resoundingly beating most global equity funds and the 22.5% return achieved by the MSCI World Index.

He has three funds operating in three countries investing in 42 countries.

My search on Google found a May 2009 article in the Malaysian newspaper, The Star, which quoted him saying (this may take your breath away!):

“I’m pretty damn good at what I do. I would say I am one of the top five fund managers in the world. It is a pity that people don’t really recognise that.”

Among the top 5? If true, we should pay close attention to what he says ......

Some highlights of The Edge’s article are summarized below. For the full-blown story, which we can't reproduce anyway, please go buy the magazine today (only $3.80).

* A bull market really? 

Mr Tan has no time for doubters who think the market could fall again on a double-dip recession.

“People are still seeing the rebound as a bear-market rally. In my view, it’s definitely a bull market. In fact, it’s a good old-fashioned bull rally and certainly a V-shaped recovery,” he said.

* Explain! 

Mr Tan said economic growth and corporate earnings are recovering and will become ‘self-enforcing’. He believes that global stocks could jump 30-40% next year.

And, of course, there’s China’s economic growth which will support a long market boom.

* What stocks are you betting on? 

He said his fund owns UK supermarket chain Tesco, UK engine manufacturer Rolls Royce, and German car maker Porsche.

As for Chinese companies, it owns shares in bank group Bank of East Asia, cigarette paper packaging firm Shanghai Asia Holdings and Beijing Capital Land. These are examples.

For his recently launched Australia-registered iCaptial International Value Fund, he has added Australia-listed Mermaid Marine, a diversified marine services provider, and Singapore-listed Mermaid Maritime,a drilling and sub-engineering service provider operating in the oil and gas industry.

”Mermaid Marine currently operates a fleet of oil supply vessels in the northern part of Western Australia, where Chevron has discovered the Gorgon oil fields. It is a huge project.”

Mermaid Maritime was bought at S$0.70 a share. The company was incorporated in Thailand and was listed on the Singapore bourse in 2007.

Its operations are mainly in Southeast Asia, including Thailand and Malaysia.

* How are you rewarded? 

His answer is surprising. According to the article, he does not pay himself a salary or take a director’s fee from the funds he manages. He lives on the investment gains generated by his personal investment portfolio.


http://www.nextinsight.net/content/view/1686/60/


Related:
Riding on the Coattail of Tan Teng Boo


Tan Teng Boo on investing in the Australian market

http://in.bgvip.tv/play.php?vid=27081931

Thursday 4 March 2010

icapital.biz is 'unpopular' and 'unloved' during this bull run!





29.7.2009:  NAV per share of icapital.biz was RM1.87; icapital.biz share price was around RM1.80.


3.3.2010:  NAV per share of icapital.biz was RM2.08; icapital.biz share price closed at RM1.72.  This price was a 17.3% discount to its NAV.

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Also read: Closed-ended funds: Why a discount, anyway?

Sunday 6 December 2009

Global recession timeline

Global recession timeline


How did the credit crunch at the end of 2007 become a full financial meltdown by the middle of 2008, and finally turn into a global recession?

This interactive timeline highlights key dates in the financial collapse and helps you find the original reports of the events as they happened.

Click on an event on the timeline here:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8242825.stm



8 February 2007: HSBC WARNS OF SUBPRIME LOSSES

HSBC reveals huge losses at its US mortgage arm Household Finance due to subprime losses, in one of the first signs that the US housing market is turning sour, and that it could have a knock-on effect on the global financial sector.


2 April 2007: NEW CENTURY GOES BUST

New Century Financial, a leading subprime lender, files for bankruptcy. It is the first signal that something is seriously amiss at US mortgage lenders. Shares in other US mortgages banks like Countrywide come under pressure.


9 August 2007: CREDIT MARKETS FREEZE

Credit markets go into freefall after Paribas announces that two of its hedge funds are frozen due to "complete evaporation of liquidity" in asset backed security market. European Central Bank injects 170bn euros into the banking market and Fed lowers interest rates. Bank of England refuses to intervene in credit markets.


14 September 2007: RUN ON THE ROCK

Savers in beleaguered UK former building society Northern Rock begin withdrawing their savings after the BBC reveals the bank has received emergency financial support from the Bank of England. Northern Rock is in trouble as it was heavily reliant on the wholesale money market to fund its operations, and these markets have dried up.


17 March 2008: BEAR STEARNS RESCUE

US investment bank Bear Stearns is rescued by rival bank JP Morgan Chase after the US government provides a $30bn guarantee against its mounting losses. It is the first sign that, rather than easing, the financial crisis is getting worse but investors are relieved that US government prepared to act as lender of last resort.


7 September 2008: FANNIE MAE RESCUE

US government rescues giant mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, taking them into temporary public ownership after they reveal huge losses on the US subprime mortgage market. Their failure would have triggered a run on the dollar as many foreign governments had invested in their bonds, believing they were already guaranteed by the government.


15 September 2008: LEHMAN BROTHERS GOES BANKRUPT

US investment bank Lehman Brothers goes bankrupt after the US government refuses to bail it out. Merrill Lynch is bought by Bank of America after revealing it also is facing huge losses. Insurance firm AIG, which issued credit guarantees for subprime mortgages, is rescued the next day with an $85bn loan from US Treasury.


17 September 2008: LLOYDS TAKES OVER HBOS

Lloyds agrees a £12.2bn takeover of the ailing Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS), the UK's largest mortgage lender, after its shares plummet amid concerns over the firm's future. The UK government invokes a national interest clause to bypass competition law, as the new bank is responsible for close to one-third of the UK's savings and mortgage market.


3 October 2008: $700BN BAILOUT APPROVED BY CONGRESS

The biggest financial rescue in US history is approved after a gruelling debate in Congress, and initial defeat a week earlier. Republicans and Democrats alike were reluctant to bail out the banks with such large sums while ordinary citizens were suffering in the recession. Both presidential candidates endorse the bail-out.


13 October 2008: UK GOVERNMENT RESCUES RBS AND LLOYDS-HBOS

Two of the UK's major banks, RBS and HBOS, are in major trouble as financial markets collapse. Having merged with HBOS in September, Lloyds is hit by the huge debts built up by its new partner in the mortgage market, while RBS is struggling with its expensive merger with ABN-AMRO. The UK government injects £37bn to stabilise both banks.


16 December 2008: FED CUTS KEY RATE TO NEAR ZERO

The US central bank cuts its interest rate to 0 - 0.25% in an attempt to stem the deepening recession, and begins to consider a programme of quantitative easing to throw money into the economy to help make borrowing easier. It is the lowest interest in the history of the Fed.


14 February 2009: US CONGRESS PASSES $787BN STIMULUS

President Obama wins his first major victory in Congress as it passes a huge economic recovery plan aimed at preventing the US falling into recession as a result of the credit crunch. Much of the money will go to the states to prevent them laying off public sector workers, but some will be invested in infrastructure projects like roads, schools and green energy.


2 April 2009: G20 SUMMIT IN LONDON

World leaders pledge an additional $1.1 trillion to help emerging market countries and promise coordinated action to fight the slump and improve regulation. Gordon Brown emerges triumphant from a global summit, which he claims is a turning point in the crisis, and stock markets begin to revive. However, not all the money pledged is actually delivered.


22 April 2009: UK BUDGET REVEALS HUGE DEFICIT

The UK Chancellor Alistair Darling reveals that the credit crunch will lead to the largest budget deficit in UK financial history of £175bn, with total government debt set to double to £1 trillion by 2014. Mr Darling admits it will take two Parliaments, or 10 years to get the budget back to the position it was in before the credit crunch.



Well, what did you do with your portfolio of stocks during each of the above periods?

Lessons drawn from this crisis:

1. The recession was rather a long one. The start was when HSBC first announced the problems with US subprime loans in February 2007. However, the severity of the crisis was uncertain in the beginning. Our local Tan Teng Boo dismissed the subprime as of insignificant size to dent the financial market. However, he failed to predict the subsequent events. Those who took his advice endured the pain of the forthcoming severe downturn.

2. The crisis was better explained by reading financial articles of the US, UK, Australia and other countries. Those reading the local press were unlikely to get the whole big picture of the financial problems that subsequently unfolded. Reading widely gave a more balanced views. However, faced with uncertainties, there were conflicting views given by many "experts".

3. The local gneral election of March 08 did not affect the local market much despite the BN losing 5 states. Presumably, the economic and political risks were already factored in the index then.

4. The Lehman crisis brought a precipitous fall in the market. Those who panicked and sold after the fall would have fallen to the folly of the market - buying high and selling low - being driven by fear in a falling market. The better approach then would be to do nothing. So many a time, so much losses came about because one has to do something, when one would have been better to just do nothing. The braver and smarter ones actually bought into the market, though on hindsight, this was still 6 months too early.

5. It is difficult to time the market. It is better to be approximately right than to be exactly wrong. Warren Buffett was right when he asked people to buy in October 2008. To do likewise, one has to be wired appropriately - this is certainly possible through a deeper understanding of the market, the stocks and behavioural finance.

6. Buy and hold is a safe strategy for selected stocks.

7. The market is cyclical. After a downturn of 20% or more, the ghost of the 1929 prolonged Great Recession was resurrected causing fear to investors. This occured also in previous downturns. Just as the market cannot rise forever relentless, similarly, it cannot fall forever unabated. After a severe prolonged downturn, try to call the near-bottom if you can to pick up the underpriced valued stocks. Similarly, in a prolonged bull market, try to call the near-top to cash out of some of the overpriced stocks.

Sunday 25 October 2009

"Warren Buffett" of Malaysia

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tkb0enVog-PjOHzgbMUXi_w&output=html


The returns from iCap's winning transactions were truly fantastic. 

Are we looking at a budding "Warren Buffett" equivalent?

Wonder the 'cow' will jump over the moon?

Saturday 24 October 2009

Completed Transactions of iCap (1989 to 9.7.2009)

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tQvTWgP7osgpwBxXVtVyy_g&output=html

There were 192 completed transactions over the period 1989 to 9th July, 2009.

There were 140 winners (73%) and 52 losers (27%). 
The ratio of winners to losers is 2.7 to 1.

Therefore, we can infer that for every 4 stocks picked by iCap (also known as ttb), 3 will be winners and 1 will be a loser.  :- ))  or  :- ((


Of these 192 transactions:
80 (42%) were sold within the 12 months holding period.
112 (58%) were sold after a holding period of more than 12 months.

Of the 140 winners:
64 (46%) were sold within the 12 months holding period.
76 (54%) were sold after a holding period of more than 12 months. 

Of the 52 losers:
16 (31%) were sold within the 12 months holding period.
36 (69%) were sold after a holding period of more than 12 months.


Ref:  http://icapital.biz/icapital2/other/completedtranx_en.pdf

Friday 23 October 2009

What is the annual turnover of stocks in iCap?

In their continuing efforts to stay atop the best, many mutual funds engage in 50% to 100% or faster annual turnover (rather than buying and holding.)

Just wondering, what is the annual turnover of stocks in iCap? 

Tuesday 30 June 2009

Should you hold iCap?

"Always look at the valuation and the price.
Value a company on a long-term basis.
Many companies are still trading below its long-term valuation. "

Would you hold icap as a fund for your investment?


Let's take a look at this by seeking answers to the following questions.


How good are the fund's managers and analysts?

When investing into icap, one is effectively employing ttb and his team to pick securities for you. ttb has a investment newsletter for many years. His philosophy and strategy are known. The few model portfolios in his newsletter have outperformed the market benchmarks. However, for many investors, his truly transparent real life performance will be gauged on his performance in icap closed end fund.

What is the strategy and how well is it executed?

Using his philosophy and strategy, ttb has consistently added value to the fund he is managing. By sticking to his approach with conviction, he has delivered excellent returns to date. More importantly, there is consistency in the returns during different environment, in good and in bad times of the investing period.

Is the fund a good value proposition?

The cost is lower for this fund than other open-ended funds in the market. As many stocks are bought and held, there is less transaction costs involved too. Also, there are times when you can invest into this fund at a steep discount to its NAV.

Have the fund and its advisor been shareholder-friendly?

Some bloggers hammered ttb on this. They lament that icap should reveal its portfolio at every quarter. icap should at the least inform the shareholders of some of the transactions. If not, how can these investors make an informed decision?

icap does keep investors up to date on changes to their fund, but only once a year. Those who are subscribers of icap newsletter may get an inkling of the stocks bought or sold indirectly.

  • How critical is it for the investors to know what icap bought or sold recently?
  • How critical is it for the investors to know what icap bought or sold recently, if they have a long-term horizon?

My take on this, is that those long-term investors into icap will find it more useful and rewarding understanding the philosophy and strategy of ttb and the icap fund, than harping on this issue constantly.

icap is one of the fund with the lowest cost I know. That to me is investor friendly. Of course, being an investor into icap may make my views less objective, but I try to give an honest appraisal of these issues.

Why has the fund performed the way it has?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=roHksSrHHyf0Roi1sJE36Wg

The short-term track record since Oct 2005 has been excellent. Perhaps, we will have a look at this in detail later.

Saturday 13 June 2009

Dollar Cost Averaging vs Simple Averaging

There is a difference between simple averaging and dollar cost averaging.

Tan Teng Boo averaged down on a stock and profited. Let us look at what he did.

This was taken from this week's icap newsletter:
"A stock that the i Capital Global Fund invested in plunged around 85% during the 2007-2009 bear market. However, instead of selling as it dropped, we bought so much more of this stock that the cost price plunged around 80% too. By now, the i Capital Global Fund is sitting on a gain of 175% on this particular stock. The reason why ICGF bought so much more was because if it was attractive at higher prices, it is even more attractive at depressed prices since the business fundamentals of the company have not changed. "

What ICGF did. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=r_MxUHLmwJhsKRpR7JklS1Q&output=html

Simple Averaging

The first point to clear up is actually the difference between dollar cost averaging and simple averaging. What Teng Boo did above was not DCA but simple averaging.

Buffett does not believe in DCA. "It does not make sense investing in stocks when the prices are high." However, Buffett will employ simple averaging, often buying a good stock he likes in large amount when its price is down for no good reasons.

DCA

Those employing DCA should learn its limitations too. It is a way to diversify risk, and is definitely not a strategy to optimise your returns. Various studies quoted that returns from lump sum investing beats those from DCA, 60% of the time.

There are risks too from DCA. If the stock price tanked due to deterioration in its fundamentals, using DCA equates to throwing good money after a lousy company and should not be employed. Also, remember that the same amount used for DCA into a stock is an opportunity cost, to investing in another stock.


The Only Reason to Simple Average or Dollar Cost Average

I did pick up a very important point. It was good to see this advice in print. For those who are investing in good high quality stocks, averaging down can be employed in ONE particular situation, when its price tanked for no good reasons. However, there is still the need to ensure that your good high quality stock's fundamentals have not deteriorated.



To summarise:

There is only one reason that justifies simple averaging or dollar cost averaging - when its price tanked for no good reasons. However, there is still the need to ensure that your good high quality stock's fundamentals have not deteriorated.

If you thought that a stock was undervalued at $34 and without the fundamentals of the company changing, the stock got unfairly beaten down.

An investor put it: "The company and its business have not changed. The only change is its share price got beaten down."

How can you improve your investment returns in stocks?

The adage, "Buy low and Sell high" and pocket the profit, is well known. I like to also remember it this way: "Never buy high and Never sell low".

The subsequent discussion applies to investing in high quality good stocks bought at a bargain only.

How can the average investor improves his investment returns in stocks? More specifically how can an average investor improves his return to 10% annually? Even better, to above 15% annually and consistently? Let us examine some factors affecting investment returns.


1. Stock selection

This is important. You wish to have a stock that gives you a good total sustainable return over many years. You will need to invest in those stocks with a high ROE of at least 15% or more. Also, these stocks should have good earnings growth (EPS growth) that is consistent and sustainable. Such companies run businesses with a huge competitive advantage over their competitors with a large moat.


2. Buy when the selected stock is selling at a low price.

This is the better way to get superior return - the potential return is higher with concomitant lower risk. Invest in "value stocks". A good portfolio should always have cash available to benefit from a bear market or a correction or panic sell in a bull market/or a specific stock.

Here is a recent illustration from icap. to emphasize this point:

"This pleasant result is due to the “Intelligently Eclectic” value investing style that Capital Dynamics has adopted for the last 21 years. What does it mean in practical terms ? A stock that the i Capital Global Fund invested in plunged around 85% during the 2007-2009 bear market. However, instead of selling as it dropped, we bought so much more of this stock that the cost price plunged around 80% too. By now, the i Capital Global Fund is sitting on a gain of 175% on this particular stock. The reason why ICGF bought so much more was because if it was attractive at higher prices, it is even more attractive at depressed prices since the business fundamentals of the company have not changed. "


3. Taking profit

Profit should be realised from sales of stocks in the following situations:
(I) when the stock is obviously overpriced, or
(II) when the sale of the stock frees the capital to be reinvested into another stock with potentially better return.

Not taking profit in the above situations can harm your portfolio and compromise its returns. In other circumstances, let the winners run.

Underperforming stocks should also be sold early. Hanging onto underperforming stocks is costly too. There is the opportunity cost that the capital can be better employed for higher return. Also, hanging onto these lack-lustre stocks reduces the overall return of your portfolio.


4. Reducing serious loss

When the fundamentals of a stock have deteriorated, sell to protect your portfolio. This decision should be make quickly based on the facts and situations, in order to keep your losses small.


5. Diversify, but not overdoing it

According to Buffett, adding the 7th stock to the portfolio reduces the return without reducing the overall non-systemic risk. of the portfolio. Select the best 6 stocks. If you need to add money to your portfolio, buy more of these preexisting stocks when they are offered at a good or bargain price. If you identify a better stock to invest, perhaps, this should replace one of the preexisting stocks in the portfolio.


6. Asset allocate according to your risk taking ability

It is perplexing to know of investors whose days are affected by the swings in the market. You should not bet your total networth into the stock market. Allocate the amount that you are willing to risk.

Many long-term investors are always riding on a significant amount of gains. This means that they will only lose their capital in very unlikely extreme situations.

Here is an example to illustrate this point.

"After investing more than £2 bln in Barclays Plc, two years ago, Temasek, the well-known investment arm of Singapore, recently sold its stake in the British bank at a big loss."

Sometimes you made a serious mistake, or events turned against you, and there is no way to redeem this without taking a big loss. The only protection here is you have allocated your allocate asset appropriately such that this "black swan" phenomenon won't harm you irreparably. Hopefully this will not 'stopped out' in your investing.


7. So far so good. The hardest part: getting wired like Buffett and Teng Boo!

To invest like what Teng Boo did in ICGF, you need to be knowledgeable and able to execute 'coldly' (or cooly) without being affected by emotions. These are among the harder skills to master. Have you wondered what drives this blogger to write on investing? Through writing, rather than lurking, you can focus on the facts and solidify your knowledge, philosophy and strategy.

Admittedly, there is no single philosophy or strategy; but you should have one to guide your investing. It prevents you from over-reacting to emotions and circumstances, that may harm your portfolio and investing returns. As this discussion assumes the portfolio contains only good quality stocks, it prevents you from "Buying high and Selling low" due to falling prices in the market. It may allow you to benefit hugely from the volatilities and follies of the market; making volality your friend.

Understanding and mastering this field of behavioural finance is yet another challenge to higher investment returns for me.

Tuesday 5 May 2009

Finding companies that can be held long-term

The challenge: Finding companies that can be held long-term

Despite the volatility in the market, Tan says he is still a long-term investor.

“We bought into Parkson in 2002 when it was around 40 sen. It went to a peak of around RM10. If we had sold at 80 sen, we would have made 100% gains. The question is, if you sell, what are you going to reinvest in? The advantages of buying and holding is that if you have the right company, you don’t have to worry about reinvesting. Of course, at RM20, we would have sold because it would have been so overvalued. But a good company, managed well, has tremendous potential. If you buy and sell once in 10 years, you only have to be right twice. If I buy and sell every month, I have to be right 24 times a year. "

The dramatic drop in stock markets last year has led to the long-term approach of buy and hold being questioned. In an article in late April, The Wall Street Journal ran said that advisers are ditching the ‘buy and hold’ dogma in the face of massive losses.

For Capital Dynamic Asset Management Sdn Bhd’s managing director Tan Teng Boo, the question is not whether to invest long-term but in finding companies that can be held long-term. The value investor seeks companies selling at an attractive discount from the intrinsic value. And in this market, he is rubbing his hands in glee. Tan says he has been steadily accumulating stocks over the past year. The iCapital Global Fund, a fund for high net worth investors that was launched in July 2007, now only holds 6% in cash, says Tan.

“We see a lot of prices which have bombed out although the company has not,” he says. “I have never seen so much pessimism in so many places at so many levels of society in my life. The negative sentiment is a divergence from the economic numbers, which isn’t as bad as those seen in the Depression. This is a springboard for a major rally.”