4 Charlie Munger Quotes That Will Make You A Better Investor

Ben Reynolds

October 16, 2018 

Every investor not living under a rock knows Warren Buffett, Chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (NYSE: BRK-A)(NYSE: BRK-B), but they might not be as familiar with Charlie Munger, Buffett’s business partner and Vice-Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway. Munger is Buffett’s right-hand man, and has played an important role at Berkshire Hathaway for decades. Together, these two legendary investors built the firm into the investment conglomerate it is today.

Investors can learn a great deal from the wisdom Munger has gained over many years at the helm of Berkshire Hathaway. Here we take a look at some of his best quotes.

A Remarkable Investment Track Record

Munger’s investment performance — both before and during his tenure at Berkshire Hathaway — is nothing short of spectacular. Munger actually managed his own investment partnership before joining Buffett at Berkshire Hathaway, during which he managed annual returns of 19.8 percent from 1962 to 1975, compared to just 5 percent annually for the Dow Jones Industrial Average over the same period.

Munger and Buffett share a similar investment philosophy. In short, they buy great companies trading for discounts to their intrinsic value. The focus here is on high-quality businesses:

“A great business at a fair price is superior to a fair business at a great price.”

Often, the stock market irrationally discounts companies based on short-term factors, such as geopolitical events, rising interest rates and other macro-economic factors. Buffett and Munger try to buy these undervalued stocks when the market does not appreciate their long-term potential.

Great businesses, according to Munger, are those that have durable competitive advantages, and highly profitable business models. Munger particularly likes businesses that do not require a great deal of reinvestment in order to grow. In addition, investors should focus on investments that are not overly complicated. Sometimes, the best long-term businesses operate in industries that do not experience rapid change.

In addition, investors should carefully consider a company’s management team. Even great businesses can be brought to ruin by incompetent managers. Investors should favor companies that do not require geniuses in the executive suite to be run effectively.

Now that investors have selected great businesses with strong management teams, the next best thing they can do is be patient.

Give It Time

Investors tend to react impulsively. With the often-volatile swings of the stock market, it can be easy for investors to think they always need to respond to daily events by trading in and out of their positions. This is a huge mistake, and is one of the biggest reasons why many investors earn weak returns over time. Trading frequently generates trading commissions, and in some cases, tax liability. There is simply no way any investor can know the perfect time to buy and sell stocks.

Because of this, investors should train themselves to ignore the daily fluctuations of the stock market, and instead think for the long-term. Patience is difficult, especially when the market is declining, but is necessary to reap the benefits of long-term investing:

“The big money is not in the buying or the selling, but in the waiting.”

Being patient allows investors to benefit from the magic of compounding interest. Patience is not to be confused with complacency. High-quality businesses do not often trade for significant discounts to their intrinsic values, so when they do come around, investors should pounce. Munger was not a big proponent of diversification. Munger never saw the reason to buy additional stocks just for the sake of diversification, when the best ideas should get the bulk of an investor’s attention:

“Our experience tends to confirm a long-held notion that being prepared, on a few occasions in a lifetime, to act promptly in scale, in doing some simple and logical thing, will often dramatically improve the financial results of that lifetime. A few major opportunities, clearly recognized as such, will usually come to one who continuously searches and waits, with a curious mind that loves diagnosis involving multiple variables. And then all that is required is a willingness to bet heavily when the odds are extremely favorable, using resources available as a result of prudence and patience in the past.”

Munger’s apathy toward diversification runs contrary to a cornerstone principle of many investors. But given his remarkable investment performance at his own partnership, and then at Berkshire, it is hard to argue with his methodology.

Never Stop Learning

One of the core principles of Munger’s investing philosophy is to learn as much as possible. This is one of the best ways for investors to get better. Munger’s pursuit of knowledge is not necessarily to become more intelligent. It is not always the case that investors with the highest intelligence perform best in the market. Instead, Munger preached wisdom, which can mean different things to different people. To Munger, wisdom is more than simply memorizing facts:

“What is elementary, worldly wisdom? Well, the first rule is that you can’t really know anything if you just remember isolated facts and try and bang ’em back. If the facts don’t hang together on a latticework of theory, you don’t have them in a usable form. You’ve got to have models in your head. And you’ve got to array your experience — both vicarious and direct — on this latticework of models. You may have noticed students who just try to remember and pound back what is remembered. Well, they fail in school and fail in life. You’ve got to hang experience on a latticework of models in your head.”

The takeaway for investors is that it is entirely possible to do well in the stock market, and you don’t have to be an investment banker or possess an MBA. Investors can generate strong returns over time, simply by following a few simple rules in the investment selection process. If investors buy high-quality businesses trading for less than their intrinsic value, with strong management teams, and are patient to hold for long periods of time, their performance can measurably improve.

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Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger discuss intrinsic value at the 1997 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting.

Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger discuss intrinsic value at the 1997 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting.


@7.00 Charlie Munger advocates the concept of opportunity cost.

@8.30 Compare with Coca Cola. Compare to Gillette. Is it better than buying Coca Cola or Gillette stock? Always compare to your own preexisting stock. Maybe better off buying more of the preexisting stocks.

@9.40 Concept of intrinsic value was easier in the past. Based on liquidation value. Based on asset value. You can see the discount from intrinsic value. Now, you need to get into Warren's type of thinking on valuation.

@12.00 Part of the process of calculating intrinsic value is the ability to: Walk away from anything that doesn't work? Walk away from anything you cannot understand?

Buffett doubles down on banks as Berkshire trims Apple stake

15 Feb 2019

NEW YORK (Feb 15): Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc took advantage of a plunge in bank stocks to pile even further into his bet on financials, while trimming a giant stake in Apple Inc.

Berkshire spent the last half of the year snapping up more shares of banks and insurers, moves that made the company a major shareholder in four of the five largest US banks. The Omaha, Nebraska-based conglomerate boosted its stake in JPMorgan Chase & Co and Bank of America Corp in the last three months of the year.


Key Insights

Berkshire reduced its Apple stake by 1% in a period that marked its first holiday quarter sales decline in 18 years and saw shares plunge 30% . It’s still the biggest holding in Buffett’s portfolio, and the stock has rebounded about 8% this year.

Buffett didn’t enjoy his time investing in International Business Machines Corp, but he may have made quite a haul on its latest purchase.

Berkshire owned 4.2 million shares of Red Hat Inc at year-end, though it’s unclear if they were bought before IBM’s purchase of the company sent the stock up 45% on Oct 29.

Berkshire also boosted its stakes in regional lenders, including PNC Financial Services Group Inc and US Bancorp. That could be a bet on consolidation in the industry, as this month’s announced merger between SunTrust Banks Inc and BB&T Corp has led to speculation that more deals are coming.

Market Reaction

Oracle shares dropped 1.3% at 4:56pm in New York, after the end of regular US trading. Apple was down as well, losing about 0.5%.

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Buffett had long praised JPMorgan’s Jamie Dimon even as Berkshire Hathaway didn’t invest in the stock. Berkshire eventually plowed in when the timing aligned, according to Vice Chairman Charles Munger. “As investment has gotten harder and the banks have done better and better, we’ve finally reached a crossing point where he was willing to act,” Munger said Thursday in an interview after the Daily Journal Corp meeting in Los Angeles.

Berkshire’s dalliance with Oracle Corp was short-lived. After taking a US$2.1 billion stake in the software firm in the third quarter, Berkshire had sold out by year-end. Buffett has typically taken a more cautious approach to technology companies, given his lack of familiarity with the space.
Buffett likes to take advantage of what he views as fear in the markets, and that certainly hit banks last quarter. The S&P 500 Financials Index dropped 14% in the fourth quarter, the worst period in more than seven years.


- Bloomberg

EPF declares 6.15% for conventional savings, 5.9% for shariah

KUALA LUMPUR (Bernama): The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) has declared a dividend rate of 6.15% for Conventional Savings 2018, with payout amounting to RM43bil and 5.9% for Shariah Savings 2018, with a payout amounting to RM4.32bil.

In total, the payout for 2018 amounts to RM47.32bil, a marginal decrease of 1.7 per cent from 2017.

"With a real dividend of 3.93 per cent for Simpanan Konvensional and 3.68% for Simpanan Shariah on a rolling three-year basis respectively, the EPF has exceeded its mandate of delivering a dividend of at least 2.5% on a yearly basis and at least 2.0% real dividend on a rolling three-year basis," the EPF said in a statement on Saturday (Feb 16).

"We are very grateful and pleased that we have been able to consistently meet our two strategic investment targets. Beyond the anticipated nominal dividends, more importantly is that we consistently deliver above-inflation returns so that we are able to preserve and enhance the value of our members' savings over the long term and help them achieve a better retirement future," its chairman, Tan Sri Samsudin Osman said.

"Nonetheless, we remained focused on our long-term strategy and our portfolio diversification has provided resiliency and delivered commendable returns to our members," he said.

Gross investment income for 2018 was RM50.88bil, out of which a total of RM4.62 billion was attributed to Shariah Savings, proportionate to its share of total Shariah assets, while RM46.26bil was attributed to Conventional Savings.

The lower income for EPF's Shariah portfolio in 2018 was due to the underperformance of the telecommunications, construction and oil and gas sectors in the domestic portfolio.

The dividend payout for each account was derived from total gross realised income for the year after deducting the net impairment on financial assets, unrealised gains or losses from intercompany transactions, investment expenses, operating expenditures, statutory charges, as well as dividend on withdrawals.

The payout amount required for each 1.0% of the dividend in 2018 was RM7.72bil, which is higher compared with RM7.02bil in 2017.

In accordance with the implementation of the Malaysian Financial Reporting Standards 9 (MFRS 9), which came into effect beginning Jan 1, 2018, capital gains on disposal of equity amounting to RM18.21bil for 2018 will flow directly to Retained Earnings from the Statement of Other Comprehensive Income, instead of the Statement of Profit and Loss as under the previous MFRS 139.

In addition, under MFRS 9, the EPF will no longer recognise any impairment on its listed equity holdings, he added. - Bernama




Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019/02/16/epf-declares-dividends-for-2018/

Buffett explains Intrinsic Value

To avoid falling into a value trap, an investor must always keep asking, "why"?

Once you find an undervalued security trading at a substantial discount to your estimate of intrinsic value, your job is not over. 

"Why is the stock trading at this level and what catalysts will lead to its eventual reversal?" 

If you cannot answer this question, you should not be investing in the stock. 

This is second level thinking (Howard Marks) and it will keep you from falling into a value trap. 

An investor must always keep asking, "why"? 

• Why is this occurring? 
• What is the overarching reasoning or justification behind this particular scenario or occurrence? 

When you have those answers, you have to ascertain why the other side may (or may not) be wrong. 

• Is there are mispricing here? 
• There was a major disconnect between perception and reality - between the stock price and the intrinsic value of the business. Why? 

There can be from any number of reasons. Usually one or the other side is wrong from psychological or analytical misjudgements (sometimes both).

This is opportunity cost at its finest action.

PROBABILITY OF VALUE REALIZATION


What do you do if there are multiple bargains at the same time?

How do you distinguish which ones offer better value than the other ones?

One stock is trading at 40% below its intrinsic value and another at 70% below its intrinsic value.

• WHICH ONE DO YOU INVEST INTO?
• WHAT IF ONE OF THE INVESTMENTS HAS A GREATER PROBABILITY OF VALUE REALIZATION THAN THE OTHER?

Note: The best absolute value may not always be your best investment choice.



As a focused value investors, we want no more than a few investments in the portfolio at any one time.

As the number of investments in the portfolio build up, every decision make will be based on whether it is a better investment in comparison to any of the current holdings.

This is opportunity cost at its finest action.

Understanting Risk Aversion

Risk aversion- Various Definitions

Description: In economics and finance, risk aversion is the behavior of humans, who, when exposed to uncertainty, attempt to lower that uncertainty. It is the hesitation of a person to agree to a situation with an unknown payoff rather than another situation with a more predictable payoff but possibly lower expected payoff.

Definition: A risk averse investor is an investor who prefers lower returns with known risks rather than higher returns with unknown risks. In other words, among various investments giving the same return with different level of risks, this investor always prefers the alternative with least interest.

What is Risk Averse: Risk averse is the description of an investor who, when faced with two investments with a similar expected return, prefers the one with the lower risk.

Risk Averse: A risk-averse investor dislikes risk and, therefore, stays away from high-risk stocks or investments and is prepared to forego higher rates of return. Investors who are looking for "safer" investments typically invest in savings accounts, bonds, dividend growth stocks and certificates of deposit (CDs).

Description: A risk averse investor avoids risks. S/he stays away from high-risk investments and prefers investments which provide a sure shot return. Such investors like to invest in government bonds, debentures and index funds.



What is Risk Averse?

Someone who is risk averse has the characteristic or trait of preferring to avoiding loss over making a gain. This characteristic is usually attached to investors or market participants who prefer investments with lower returns and relatively known risks over investments with potentially higher returns but also with higher uncertainty and more risk. A common concept tied to risk, one which compares thee risk level of an individual investment or portfolio to the overall risk level in the stock market, is the concept of beta.

Risk Averse definition and chart



Types of Investments Risk Averse Investors Choose

A risk averse investor tends to avoid relatively higher risk investments such as stocks, options, and futures. They prefer to stick with investments with guaranteed returns and lower-to-no risk. These investments include, for example, government bonds and Treasury bills. Below are two lists that classify lower and higher risk investments. Keep in mind that while the relative risk levels of various types of investments generally remain constant, there can be situations where a usually low-risk investment has a higher risk, or vice versa.



Safer, low-risk investments
Bonds
Certificates of Deposit
Treasury securities
Life Insurance
Investment Grade Corporate Bonds
Bullet Loans
ETFs*

In addition to these specific investments, any type of debt instrument issued by a company will generally be considered a safe, low-risk investment. These debt instruments are typically well-suited for a risk averse investing strategy.

These instruments are lower risk at least partly due to their characteristic of absolute priority. In the event of dissolution or bankruptcy of a company, there is a definite order of payback to the company’s creditors and investors. Legally, the company must first pay of debtors before paying off preferred shareholders and common shareholders (equity investors).



Higher risk investments
Stocks
Penny Stocks
Mutual Funds
Financial Derivatives (Options, warrant, futures)
Commodities
ETFs*


*Some ETFs are higher risk, but most ETFs, especially those invested in market indexes, are considered quite safe, especially when compared to investments in individual stocks. This is because they typically experience relatively lower volatility, due to their diversified nature. Keep in mind, however, that some ETFs are invested in significantly higher risk securities. Hence, the inclusion of ETFs in both the low and high risk categories.

General Portfolio Policy (Benjamin Graham)

General Portfolio Policy: The Defensive Investor

Graham opens the chapter defining two different kinds of investors: the “active” investor, which is the kind of investor that actively seeks new investments and invests serious time into studying investments, and the “passive” or “defensive” investor, the kind of investor that wants to invest once (or on a highly regular basis) and just let his or her portfolio run on autopilot.

Regardless of the activity that you apply to your investments, Graham sticks hard with his recommendation from the earlier chapter: 50% stocks, 50% bonds (or a close approximation thereof, with an absolute maximum of 75% in either side). It’s important to remember with a recommendation like that that Graham is very conservative in his investing, dreading the idea of an actual loss in capital. Only in the most dire of down markets (like 2008, for example) would such a portfolio actually deliver a loss to the investor.

Things that enterprising investors should focus on. (Benjamin Graham) 2

Portfolio Policy for the Enterprising Investor: The Positive Side

Graham says that there are four clear areas of activity that an enterprising investor (read: not an ultra-conservative investor) should focus on:

1. Buying in low markets and selling in high markets.
Graham says, in essence, that this is a good strategy in theory, but that it’s essentially impossible to accurately predict (on a mathematical basis) when the market is truly “low” and when it’s truly “high.” Why? Graham says that there’s inadequate data available to be able to accurately predict such situations – he basically believes fifty years of data is needed to make such claims, and as of the book’s writing, he did not believe adequate data was available in the post-1949 modern era. 

2. Buying carefully chosen “growth stocks.”
What about growth stocks – ones that are clearly showing rampant growth? Graham isn’t opposed to buying these, but says that one should look for growth stocks that have a reasonable P/E ratio. He wouldn’t buy a “growth stock” if it had a price-to-earnings ratio higher than 20 over the last year and would avoid stocks that have a price-to-earnings ratio over 25 on average over the last several years. In short, this is a way to filter out “bubble” stocks (one where irrational exuberance is going on) when looking at growth stocks.

3. Buying bargain issues of various types.
Here, Graham finally gets around to the idea of buying so-called “value stocks.” For the most part, Graham focuses on market conditions as they existed in 1959, pointing towards what would constitute value stocks then. A brief bit on page 169, Graham discusses “filtering” the stocks listed by Standard and Poor’s (essentially a 1950s precursor to the S&P 500) and identifying 85 stocks that meet basic value criteria, then buying them and finding that, over the next two years, most of them beat the overall market.

That’s an index fund. Graham had basically conceived of the idea in the 1950s – it worked then, and it works now.

4. Buying into “special situations.”
Graham largely suggests avoiding “topical” news as a reason to buy or sell, mostly because it’s hard for investors to gauge how exactly such news will truly affect the stock’s price. Instead, one should simply file away interesting long-term news for later use if you’re going to evaluate the stock. For example, recalling that a company is still paying off an incurred debt from ten years ago and that debt is about to be paid off might be an indication of an upcoming jump in profit for the company – and a possible sign of a good value.

Things that enterprising investors should focus on. (Benjamin Graham) 1

Ben Graham has a lot of ideas about what you should avoid.  Defensive investors should avoid everything but large, prominent companies with a long history of paying dividends. Even enterprising investors should avoid junk bonds, foreign bonds, preferred stocks, and IPOs.

To put it simply, Graham doesn’t like risk. It comes through time and time again in every chapter of the book – do the footwork, minimize risk, and don’t swing for the fences.

So what kind of real-world investing does that lead to? Graham finally gets down to actual tactics here, finally pointing toward some specific investment choices that he actually supports! At last!

Things that even enterprising investors should avoid. (Benjamin Graham) 2

Portfolio Policy for the Enterprising Investor: Negative Approach

So, what should you avoid?

First, avoid junk bonds. If they have anything less than a stellar bond rating, don’t bother, even if they appear to return very well. Junk bonds put your principal at risk, and the point of buying bonds is to have a safe portion of your portfolio.

Second, avoid foreign bonds. Here, there are stability issues, and it’s often hard to adequately judge the risk of buying bonds from government and private entities operating under rules unfamiliar to you. 

Third, avoid preferred stocks. Preferred stocks are ones that have a higher priority in the event of a liquidation of the business, but often come at a premium price. Almost always, Graham doesn’t feel these are worth any sort of premium. Of course, in the United States, preferred stock is generally not sold directly to individual investors, only to large institutions, so it’s largely a moot point.

Finally, avoid IPOs. To put it simply, new issues do not have any track record upon which to adequately judge the company. The “hype” of an IPO is all you really have to judge the issue on. Instead, let others jump into that feeding frenzy and wait until time has shown which companies swim and which ones sink.

Those are some good rules for anyone to follow, particularly if you’re concerned about not losing the money you invest. Most of these investments have a pretty significant amount of risk and in Graham’s world, one shouldn’t put the principal at undue risk.

Things that even enterprising investors should avoid. (Benjamin Graham) 1

Graham’s view of a conservative investor is very conservative. Focus primarily on big, blue chip stocks that pay a dividend and counterbalance that with roughly an equal amount of bonds. Very conservative, indeed.

But what about those of us who are less conservative and want to seek out other investments? After all, isn’t The Intelligent Investor supposed to be a guide to value investing, not just “buy blue chips and wait”?

Graham starts to head down this path here as he turns his sights from the very conservative investor to the … less conservative investor, the type of person who would actually follow value investing principles and seek out investments that show every sign of being undervalued – and then invest in them.

But first, a chapter of cautionary advice. Graham is nothing if not cautious, after all. The focus here is on things that even enterprising investors should avoid.

The Defensive Investor and Common Stocks (Benjamin Graham)

The Defensive Investor and Common Stocks

Graham’s advice, tends to focus on people who are willing to put in that extra time – and if you’re willing to do that, he has a lot of wisdom to share.

First of all, diversify. You should own at least ten different stocks, but more than thirty might be a mistake, as it becomes difficult to follow all of them carefully and also seek out new potential stock investments.

Second, invest in only large, prominent, and conservatively financed companies. Look for ones with little debt on the books and ones with a large market capitalization.

Third, invest only in companies with a long history of paying dividends. If a company rarely pays dividends, your only way to earn money from that company is if the market deems the stock to be valuable, and you shouldn’t trust that the market will do so.

Graham seems to point strongly towards the thirty stocks that make up the Dow Jones Industrial Average as a good place to start looking, as they usually match all of these criteria. I’d personally stretch that to include stocks that make up the S&P 500, but the Dow is a great place to find very large blue chip companies that are very stable and have paid dividends for a long time.

Other than that, Graham pooh-poohs many other common strategies. Buying growth stocks? Nope. Dollar-cost averaging? Good in theory, not great in practice. Portfolio adjustments? Be very, very careful – and only do annual evaluations. In short, be very, very wary and play it very, very cool.

Remember, this is Graham’s advice for the defensive, very conservative investor.

Strong, thorough research is the most important part about owning stocks. (Benjamin Graham)

The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham

There’s one big underlying theme to this book. Yet, it keeps coming to the forefront again and again. It’s the one point that I believe Graham wants people to take home from this book.

Strong, thorough research is the most important part about owning stocks.

If you can’t – or aren’t willing to – put in a lot of time studying individual stocks, identifying ones that genuinely have potential to return good value to you over time, and keep careful tabs on those individual stocks, then you shouldn’t be investing in stocks.

Over and over again, Graham makes this point, in both obvious and subtle ways. He’s a strong, strong believer in knowing the company. If you don’t have clear, concrete reasons for buying a stock, then you shouldn’t be buying that stock, period.

What if you don’t have that time? This book was written before the advent of index funds, but I tend to think that broad-based index funds can be a reasonable replacement for the stock portion of your portfolio.

Advantages of Long Term Investing into Growth Stocks

Advantages of Long Term Investing into Growth Stocks

80% Success with Stock Selection
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KISS Investing (Kiss It Simple and Safe)

1. You buy a company earning $1 per share ($1 EPS)

2. You buy that share for 20 X EPS ($1.00) = $20.00

3. The company grows earnings to $2 per share (EPS = $2)

4. You still sell it for 20 X EPS (20 X $2 =$40)

5. It's worth $40 and your money has doubled!

That's the secret.



The Two Most Important Tests of a Company's Value

1. What is the potential reward?

2. How much risk must I take to obtain it?



The Only Two Times You Should Sell a Stock

1. You want or need the money.

2. The company fails to perform as you predicted.

"Fails to perform as you predicted" means the quality deteriorates or the return potential deteriorates.

You hold a quality stock until you want or need the money unless the quality or potential return deteriorates.

Approximately one in five of the stocks you pick will develop unforeseen problems and need to be sold.



The Two Strategies of Portfolio Management

1. Defense - Has the quality deteriorated?

2. Offense - Has the return potential deteriorated?

Defensive portfolio management deals with making sure the growth you found and forecast is actually occuring. There will always be short term interuptions in growth which result in buying opportunities, but stocks with long term, serious problems must be caught early and delt with decisively by selling them.

Offensive portfolio management deals with grossly overvalued situations and is less urgent to pursue. Here your focus is to capture excess profit when a stock temporarily becomes overvalued by REPLACING it with another stock of equal or grater quality and greater return potential.

Missing a defensive portfolio management problem can result in serious harm to the return of your portfolio, whereas missing an offensive portfolio management problem only results in a little lost extra profit. You'll still own a quality stock.



Speculation vs. Investing

The difference between a speculator or day-trader and an investor.

A graph shows several years of weekly high - low price changes for a company that has been steadily growing its sales and earnings.

There was a lot of price fluctuations on a week to week basis, but the trend was clear. The price went up over the long term. Price follows earnings.

Speculators or day-traders try to predict the short term price directions and prosper by buying low and selling high. They don't need growth stocks. Long term investors do.

Long term investors use strategies to find these growth stocks and then pick purchase entry points and ride the long term upward trend in price.

Aeon Credit - Understanding its business.

Aeon Credit operates in the financing industry in the following segments:

1. Vehicle Easy Payment (VEP) segment (main segment)
-Motorcycle easy payment (MEP)
-Car easy payment, mainly used cars (CEP)

2. Household appliances General Easy Payment (GEP)

3. Personal loans

4. Credit cards

5. Other incomes:
-Recoveries
-Fees from credit card processing
-Insurance fees
-Aeon Big loyalty program processing fees.



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Consumer sentiment could weigh on the business of the provider of mirco credit financing’s loan growth.

Aeon Credit’s loan growth will continue to be driven by its vehicle easy payment (VEP) segment which is the largest contribution to the group’s revenue.

The research firm noted Aeon Credit’s loan portfolio comprised primarily of VEP which made up more than half of the micro credit financing provider’s total loans.

Aeon Credit’s VEP include motorcycle easy payment (MEP) and car easy payment (CEP) mainly used cars.

Aeon Credit also provide financing for the purchase of household appliances under general easy payment (GEP), personal loans and credit cards.

Aeon Credit’s other income line include recoveries as well as fee income from credit card processing fees, insurance fees and Aeon Big loyalty programme processing fees.


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The parent AEON FINANCIAL SERVICES JAPAN owns 59.7% of the company.

They operate in the financing industry for automobile, motorcycles, general easy payment (GEP), credit and personal financing.

They collect an effective gross yield of
- 14% for automobile,
- 21% for personal financing,
- 27% for GEP and
- 21-27% for motorcycles.

This business is highly profitable as they are able to cater to the financing needs of households.


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Re: Aeon Credit
« April 23, 2016, 01:04:41 PM »


TA (Total Asset) = RM 6097.5 m


Rev/TA 15.8%
EBIT/TA 7.6%
Finance Cost/TA 2.7%
PBT/TA 4.9%
Tax/TA 1.2%
PAT/TA 3.7% :thumbsup: (Return on Total Assets)


Total Borrowings 4908.1
Cost of borrowings 3.3%


Total receivables 5394.9
Finance Cost/Total receivables 3.0%

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« September 28, 2018, 12:48:06 PM »

Ratios & Margins AEON Credit Service (M) Bhd
All values updated annually at fiscal year end


Valuation
P/E Ratio (TTM) 12.43
P/E Ratio (including extraordinary items) 13.07
Price to Book Ratio 2.18

EPS (recurring) 2.52
EPS (basic) 1.43
EPS (diluted) 1.38


Efficiency

Profitability
Gross Margin +70.72
Operating Margin +54.03
Pretax Margin +29.26
Net Margin +21.04

Return on Assets 3.82
Return on Equity 23.21
Return on Total Capital 10.13
Return on Invested Capital 5.09

Interest Coverage 3.24



KEY STOCK DATA
P/E Ratio (TTM) 12.38 (09/28/18)
EPS (TTM) RM1.31
Market Cap RM3.97 B
Shares Outstanding 249.74 M
Public Float 72.70 M
Yield 2.47% (09/28/18)
Latest Dividend RM0.20 (07/19/18)
Ex-Dividend Date 06/27/18



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Aeon Credit versus LPI






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20.12.2018
ACSM - Quarterly Results for the Third Quarter ended 30.11.2018.pdf

Performance Review
The Company‟s revenue recorded 11.6% and 8.7% growth for the current quarter and nine months ended 30 November 2018 as compared with the previous year corresponding period. Total transaction and financing volume in the current quarter and nine months ended 30 November 2018 had increased by 49.5% to RM1.488 billion and by 26.4% to RM3.887 billion respectively as compared with the previous corresponding period ended 30 November 2017.

The gross financing receivables as at 30 November 2018 was RM8.313 billion, representing an increase of 15.41% from RM7.203 billion as at 30 November 2017. The net financing receivables after impairment was RM7.737 billion as at 30 November 2018 as compared to RM7.034 billion as at 30 November 2017.

Nonperforming loans (NPL) ratio was 2.05% as at 30 November 2018 compared to 2.48% as at 30 November 2017.

Other income was recorded at RM27.999 million for the current quarter and RM105.574 million for the nine months ended 30 November 2018 respectively, mainly comprising bad debts recovered, commission income from sale of insurance products and loyalty programme processing fees.

Ratio of total operating expense against revenue was recorded at 55.6% for the current quarter as compared to 60.9% in the preceding corresponding period. The decrease is mainly due to increase in revenue.

The Company recorded a profit before tax of RM118.072 million for the current quarter and RM357.068 million for the nine months ended 30 November 2018, representing a growth of 23.9% and 21.9% respectively as compared with previous year corresponding period.

Funding cost for the current quarter was higher as compared to the preceding corresponding quarter mainly due to higher borrowings in line with the growth of receivables. The nominal value of borrowings as at 30 November 2018 was RM6.348 billion as compared to RM5.513 billion as at 30 November 2017.

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How to read its accounts to understand its business.


Look at how much they have grown its financing receivables.

Here is how to study its accounts:

Interest income earned
less Interest costs incurred
less provision for loan losses
Net Interest income earned
Add Non interest (fees) income earned
Gross income
less Operating Expenditure
Profit Before Tax
less Tax
Profit After Tax

Reinvestment risk

An old post discussing reinvestment risks posted in May 16, 2017.  Data of Aeon Credit then was unadjusted for capital changes that have occurred since.


http://www.investlah.com/forum/index.php/topic,78077.msg1522231.html#msg1522231

Aeon Credit  May 16, 2017

FY                      HPr      LPr      adjDPS (sen)

28-Feb-17       18.06     12.94       63
29-Feb-16       15.62     11.92       63.23
20-Feb-15       14.86     11.00       28.22
20-Feb-14       18.00     10.30       46.3
20-Feb-13       18.86     10.38       32.15
20-Feb-12       13.72       5.50      25
20-Feb-11         5.75       3.09      22.08
20-Feb-10         3.48       3.02      18.75

 May 16, 2017
The price of Aeon Credit peaked in 2013. After then, it went on a decline.

I remembered discussing this company with fellow forum participant, cockcroach (who has since disappeared, hopefully temporarily).

Cockcroach sold his Aeon Credit around 16.00 per share.#




After selling a share at a certain price, when can we say we have made a profit from the sale?

For those who are long term invested into stocks, what do they do with the cash from the sale?

1. By selling a share at a certain price, have I made a profit?

Yes, since I bought the stock at a lower price in the past.

No, since I bought the stock at a higher price in the past.



2. What would you do with the cash from the sale?

I am out of the market, forever. In that case, you would have realised a gain or a loss, which is definite.

I am in the market for the long run. I would have to reinvest this cash into another stock or the same stock.



3. When would you have realised a gain, after selling a stock, if you were to be in the market for the long term?

I would have realised a gain, IF I am able to buy the same stock back at a lower price than I sold.

I would have realised a loss, IF I were to buy the same stock back at a higher price than I sold.

I would have also to take into account the dividends I did not receive (if any) while I was holding cash and out of the stock for that period.



4. Can you predict the short term volatility of the share prices of your stock?

I believe I cannot. Those who can, are either having uncanny abilities or are lying.





AEONCR November 03, 2017
Price 14.30
Market Capital (RM): 3.536b
Number of Share: 247.25m
EPS (cent): 119.03 *
P/E Ratio: 12.01
ROE (%): 24.54
Dividend (cent): 63.000 ^
Dividend Yield (%): 4.41
Dividend Policy (%): 0
NTA (RM): 4.850
Par Value (RM): 0.500

Price of 14.30 above is equivalent to 14.10 today when adjusted for capital changes.

AEONCR 27.1.2019
Price 15.98
Market Capital (RM): 4.007b
Number of Share: 250.78m
EPS (cent): 139.29 *
P/E Ratio: 11.47
ROE (%): 24.61
Dividend (cent): 41.130 ^
Dividend Yield (%): 2.57
Dividend Policy (%): 0
NTA (RM): 5.660
Par Value (RM): 0.500


Since Nov 2017, the share price of Aeon Credit has gained 13.3% (15.98/14/10 = 113%), excluding dividends received.


#(16.00 per share is equivalent to 15.78 per share today, adjusted for capital changes.)

Warren Buffett: Just looking at the price is not investing

Excellent video with very good advice for investors in stocks.

Regret Theory

Fear of regret, or simply regret theory deals with the emotional reaction people experience after realizing they've made an error in judgment.

Faced with the prospect of selling a stock, investors become emotionally affected by the price at which they purchased the stock.

• So, they avoid selling it as a way to avoid the regret of having made a bad investment, as well as the embarrassment of reporting a loss.  We all hate to be wrong, don't we?

What investors should really ask themselves when contemplating selling a stock is:
"What are the consequences of repeating the same purchase if this security were already liquidated and would I invest in it again?"

• If the answer is "no," it's time to sell; otherwise, the result is regret of buying a losing stock and the regret of not selling when it became clear that a poor investment decision was made – and a vicious cycle ensues where avoiding regret leads to more regret.

• Regret theory can also hold true for investors when they discover that a stock they had only considered buying has increased in value.

Some investors avoid the possibility of feeling this regret by following the conventional wisdom and buying only stocks that everyone else is buying, rationalizing their decision with "everyone else is doing it."

• Oddly enough, many people feel much less embarrassed about losing money on a popular stock that half the world owns than about losing money on an unknown or unpopular stock.