Monday, April 20, 2015
QAF Limited: $1.14 a share is cheaper than 93c a share?
One year ago, when QAF Limited's stock was trading at 93c a share, I observed that the PE ratio was 16.6x and I said that to buy in at that price would be making an assumption that earnings could improve dramatically in the future. There were pertinent concerns such as rising costs of doing business as well as the weak Australian Dollar and how these could continue to weigh down performance.
Well, for the full year 2014, QAF Limited has exceeded expectations as earnings per share (EPS) improved 46.4% from 5.6c to 8.2c, year on year. With the Australian Dollar having weakened further against the Singapore Dollar, how did this happen?
There was a one off contribution by Oxdale Dairy through the sale of its dairy business. Group operating profit, thus, received a boost of $1.6m. This will not be repeated, of course. However, considering the fact that Group profit improved some $15.7m (before tax), not having this one off contribution in the current year would still mean that QAF Limited would do very well, everything else remaining equal.
All business segments did well but the lion share of the improvement came from Rivalea, an Australian business segment. Operating profits improved threefold although revenue stayed flat because of higher selling prices, better product mix, productivity gains and lower raw material costs.
Lower finance costs also helped QAF Limited to do better in 2014 as borrowings were pared down. Interest expense decreased $0.9m from $4.1m to $3.2m last year.
Today, QAF Limited's stock closed at $1.14 a share and based on an EPS of 8.2c, we are looking at a PE ratio of some 14x. Even if we remove the one off divestment gain by Oxdale Dairy, we would be looking at a PE ratio of 14.5x, thereabouts.
So, although QAF Limited's stock is priced higher now, compared to buying at 93c a share a year ago, it is actually cheaper at $1.14 a share. This is what I meant when I said that a stock could actually be cheaper although its price could be higher. It is about value, not price.
Read more here:
http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/
http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/2015/04/qaf-limited-114-share-is-cheaper-than.html
Comments:
1. Price is different from value. At price of 93 c a share, its PE was 16.6x. At $1.14 a share, its PE was 14x. Thus, though the price per share is higher, you are actually paying a lower multiple for its earnings.
2. For the same reason, a $25 per share company maybe a cheaper buy than a 25 c per share company. Compare their PEs.
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Tuesday, 21 April 2015
Monday, 9 February 2015
PE multiple is rooted in discounting theory
Valuation using multiples has its fundamentals rooted in discounting. It is a shortcut to valuation.
In this method, all factors considered in a general DCF including cost of capital and growth rates are compressed in one figure, namely the multiple figure. Multiples are also market-based.
Let's look at PE in detail.
PE = Price / Earnings
Price
= PE x Earnings
= Earnings / (1/PE)
Compare this with the time-value of money equation:
PV = FV / (1+r)^n
or the dividend growth model:
PV = Div1 / (r-g)
Thus a PE multiple of 5 should nearly imply a discount rate of 20%.
The same goes for other kinds of multiples used in the financial markets:
EV/EBITDA multiples
EV/Sales
Price/Cash flow.
They are all short cuts for discounting. The EBITDA, Sales and Cash flows are all proxies of the free cash flow.
In this method, all factors considered in a general DCF including cost of capital and growth rates are compressed in one figure, namely the multiple figure. Multiples are also market-based.
Let's look at PE in detail.
PE = Price / Earnings
Price
= PE x Earnings
= Earnings / (1/PE)
Compare this with the time-value of money equation:
PV = FV / (1+r)^n
or the dividend growth model:
PV = Div1 / (r-g)
Thus a PE multiple of 5 should nearly imply a discount rate of 20%.
The same goes for other kinds of multiples used in the financial markets:
EV/EBITDA multiples
EV/Sales
Price/Cash flow.
They are all short cuts for discounting. The EBITDA, Sales and Cash flows are all proxies of the free cash flow.
DEFINITION OF 'DISCOUNTED CASH FLOW - DCF'
A valuation method used to estimate the attractiveness of an investment opportunity. Discounted cash flow (DCF) analysis uses future free cash flow projections and discounts them (most often using the weighted average cost of capital) to arrive at a present value, which is used to evaluate the potential for investment. If the value arrived at through DCF analysis is higher than the current cost of the investment, the opportunity may be a good one.
Calculated as:
Also known as the Discounted Cash Flows Model.
Reference: Finance for Beginners by Hafeez Kamaruzzaman
Monday, 24 February 2014
The Single Most Important Observation For Anyone Who Buys Stocks Based On Value
http://www.businessinsider.my/market-multiples-rarely-trade-at-mean-2014-2/#.Uwp28-OSySo
Sunday, 16 September 2012
Monday, 13 December 2010
Don't Be Misled By the P/E Ratio. It's actually growth that determines value.
By Nathan Slaughter Thursday, March 25, 2010
You might know the name Bill Miller. Aside from Warren Buffett, he could be the closest thing the investment world has to a rock star.
Every year, millions of investors set out with one goal in mind: to outperform the S&P 500. Miller's Legg Mason Value Trust did that for an impressive 15 years in a row.
That streak was finally broken in 2006, but his reputation was firmly cemented at that point. From his fund's inception in April 1982 until 2006, Miller steered his fund to annualized gains of +16%. That was good enough to turn a $10,000 investment into $395,000 -- about $156,000 more than a broad index fund would have returned.
After a long overdue slump, Miller's fund is back on top of the charts again. In fact, his fund's +47% gain during 2009 was 1,200 basis points ahead of the S&P 500.
Here's what you might not know. Miller achieved stardom and ran circles around other value fund managers by taking large stakes in companies like eBay (Nasdaq: EBAY), Google (Nasdaq: GOOG), and Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN) -- highfliers that value purists wouldn't touch because of their high P/E ratios.
The message is clear: If P/E ratios are your only value barometer, then get ready to let some profits slip through your fingers. In fact, Investor's Business Daily has found that some of the market's biggest winners were trading at prices above 30 times earnings before they made their move.
All too often, novice investors buy into preconceived notions of what's cheap and what's expensive. A stock with a P/E below 10 may be a better deal than another trading at a P/E above 20. But then again it might not. These figures might get you in the ballpark -- but biting hook, line and sinker can cost you big.
Putting aside the fact that earnings can be inflated by asset sales, deflated by one-time charges, and distorted in other ways, let's remember that today is just a brief snapshot in time.
The point is, when you become a part owner in a company, you have a claim not just on today's earnings, but all future profits as well. The faster the company is growing, the more that future cash flow stream is worth to shareholders.
That's why Warren Buffett likes to say that "growth and value are joined at the hip."
You can't encapsulate the inherent value of a business in a P/E ratio. Take Amazon, for example, which has traded at 66 times earnings on average during the past five years. On occasion, the stock has garnered multiples above 80. Many looked at that figure and immediately dismissed the company as exorbitantly overpriced. And for most companies that would be true.
But as it turns out, the shares were actually cheap relative to what the e-commerce giant would soon become. In fact, the "expensive" $35 price tag from March 2005 is only about 12 times what the company earns per share now -- and guys like Bill Miller that spotted the firm's potential have since enjoyed +230% gains.
Digging into the annual report archives, I see where CEO Jeff Bezos applauded Amazon's sales of $148 million in 1997. Today, the firm rakes in that amount every 2.2 days. Clearly, that type of hyper-growth deserves a premium price.
And that's exactly why price-conscious value investors shouldn't automatically fear growth stocks -- growth is simply a component of value.
Let me show you an example. The table below depicts the impact of future cash flow growth assumptions on Company XYZ which trades today at $10. For the sake of consistency, we will keep all other variables constant.
If free cash flow climb at a modest +6% annual pace during the next five years, then your $10 investment in Company XYZ would be worth about $13.30 per share or a +33.0% return. If cash flow grows even faster, its projected value quickly ramps up to returns of +46.9%, +101.1% or even +148.8%.
We've been taught to believe there's an invisible velvet rope separating value stocks from growth stocks. But as you can see with Company XYZ, it's actually growth that determines value. So don't be blinded to the possibility that the market's most promising growth stocks can sometimes be the cheapest.
Many analysts choose to use the Price/Earnings to Growth (PEG) ratio in addition to the P/E ratio. PEG is a simple calculation -- (P/E) / (Annual Earnings Growth Rate).
The PEG ratio is used to evaluate a stock's valuation while taking into account earnings growth. A rule of thumb is that a PEG of 1.0 indicates fair value, less than 1.0 indicates the stock is undervalued, and more than 1.0 indicates it's overvalued. Here's how it works:
If Stock ABC is trading with a P/E ratio of 25, a value investor might deem it "expensive." But if its earnings growth rate is projected to be 30%, its PEG ratio would be 25 / 30 PEG.83. The PEG ratio says that Stock ABC is undervalued relative to its growth potential.
It is important to realize that relying on one metric alone will almost never give you an accurate measure of value. Being able to use and interpret a number of measures will give you a better idea of the whole picture when evaluating a stock's performance and potential.
http://www.investinganswers.com/education/dont-be-misled-pe-ratio-1115
You might know the name Bill Miller. Aside from Warren Buffett, he could be the closest thing the investment world has to a rock star.
Every year, millions of investors set out with one goal in mind: to outperform the S&P 500. Miller's Legg Mason Value Trust did that for an impressive 15 years in a row.
That streak was finally broken in 2006, but his reputation was firmly cemented at that point. From his fund's inception in April 1982 until 2006, Miller steered his fund to annualized gains of +16%. That was good enough to turn a $10,000 investment into $395,000 -- about $156,000 more than a broad index fund would have returned.
After a long overdue slump, Miller's fund is back on top of the charts again. In fact, his fund's +47% gain during 2009 was 1,200 basis points ahead of the S&P 500.
Here's what you might not know. Miller achieved stardom and ran circles around other value fund managers by taking large stakes in companies like eBay (Nasdaq: EBAY), Google (Nasdaq: GOOG), and Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN) -- highfliers that value purists wouldn't touch because of their high P/E ratios.
The message is clear: If P/E ratios are your only value barometer, then get ready to let some profits slip through your fingers. In fact, Investor's Business Daily has found that some of the market's biggest winners were trading at prices above 30 times earnings before they made their move.
All too often, novice investors buy into preconceived notions of what's cheap and what's expensive. A stock with a P/E below 10 may be a better deal than another trading at a P/E above 20. But then again it might not. These figures might get you in the ballpark -- but biting hook, line and sinker can cost you big.
Putting aside the fact that earnings can be inflated by asset sales, deflated by one-time charges, and distorted in other ways, let's remember that today is just a brief snapshot in time.
The point is, when you become a part owner in a company, you have a claim not just on today's earnings, but all future profits as well. The faster the company is growing, the more that future cash flow stream is worth to shareholders.
That's why Warren Buffett likes to say that "growth and value are joined at the hip."
You can't encapsulate the inherent value of a business in a P/E ratio. Take Amazon, for example, which has traded at 66 times earnings on average during the past five years. On occasion, the stock has garnered multiples above 80. Many looked at that figure and immediately dismissed the company as exorbitantly overpriced. And for most companies that would be true.
But as it turns out, the shares were actually cheap relative to what the e-commerce giant would soon become. In fact, the "expensive" $35 price tag from March 2005 is only about 12 times what the company earns per share now -- and guys like Bill Miller that spotted the firm's potential have since enjoyed +230% gains.
Digging into the annual report archives, I see where CEO Jeff Bezos applauded Amazon's sales of $148 million in 1997. Today, the firm rakes in that amount every 2.2 days. Clearly, that type of hyper-growth deserves a premium price.
And that's exactly why price-conscious value investors shouldn't automatically fear growth stocks -- growth is simply a component of value.
Let me show you an example. The table below depicts the impact of future cash flow growth assumptions on Company XYZ which trades today at $10. For the sake of consistency, we will keep all other variables constant.
If free cash flow climb at a modest +6% annual pace during the next five years, then your $10 investment in Company XYZ would be worth about $13.30 per share or a +33.0% return. If cash flow grows even faster, its projected value quickly ramps up to returns of +46.9%, +101.1% or even +148.8%.
We've been taught to believe there's an invisible velvet rope separating value stocks from growth stocks. But as you can see with Company XYZ, it's actually growth that determines value. So don't be blinded to the possibility that the market's most promising growth stocks can sometimes be the cheapest.
Many analysts choose to use the Price/Earnings to Growth (PEG) ratio in addition to the P/E ratio. PEG is a simple calculation -- (P/E) / (Annual Earnings Growth Rate).
The PEG ratio is used to evaluate a stock's valuation while taking into account earnings growth. A rule of thumb is that a PEG of 1.0 indicates fair value, less than 1.0 indicates the stock is undervalued, and more than 1.0 indicates it's overvalued. Here's how it works:
If Stock ABC is trading with a P/E ratio of 25, a value investor might deem it "expensive." But if its earnings growth rate is projected to be 30%, its PEG ratio would be 25 / 30 PEG.83. The PEG ratio says that Stock ABC is undervalued relative to its growth potential.
It is important to realize that relying on one metric alone will almost never give you an accurate measure of value. Being able to use and interpret a number of measures will give you a better idea of the whole picture when evaluating a stock's performance and potential.
http://www.investinganswers.com/education/dont-be-misled-pe-ratio-1115
Price-to-Earnings Ratio (P/E)
What It Is:
A valuation method of a company’s current share price compared to its per-share earnings.
How It Works/Example:
The market value per share is the current trading price for one share in a company, a relatively straightforward definition. However, earnings per share (EPS) may not be as intuitive for most investors. The more traditional and widely used version of the EPS calculation comes from the previous four quarters of the price-to-earnings ratio, called a trailing P/E. Another variation of the EPS can be calculated using a forward P/E, estimating the earnings for the upcoming four quarters. Both sides have their advantages, with the trailing P/E approach using actual data and the forward P/E predicting possible outcomes for the stock. Calculated as the following;
Price-to-Earnings Ratio (P/E) = Market value per share / Earnings Per Share (EPS)
Moving on from the basics, let us do a sample calculation with company XYZ that currently trades at $100.00 and has an earnings per share (EPS) of $5.00. Using the previously mentioned formula, you can calculate that XYZ’s price-to-earnings ratio is 100 / 5 = 20.
For more explanation of how to use the P/E ratio in conjunction with other valuation ratios, please read our educational article Don't Be Misled By the P/E Ratio
Why It Matters:
The price-to-earnings ratio is a powerful, but limited tool. For investors, it allows a very quick snapshot of the company’s finances without getting bogged down in the details of an accounting report.
Let us use our previous example of XYZ, and compare it to another company, ABC. Company XYZ has a P/E of 20, while company ABC has a P/E of 10. Company XYZ has the highest P/E ratio of the two and this would lead most investors to expect higher earnings in the future than from company ABC (which possesses a lower P/E ratio).
As noted earlier, the P/E ratio is limited. It does not paint the entire picture for the potential investor; rather it is a complementary tool in your financial toolbox. Be wary of forward EPS measures, (remember, EPS is an essential aspect of calculation of the P/E ratio) as they are matters of prediction and are only estimates of projected earnings. Further, trailing P/E ratios can only tell you what happened to a company in the previous time periods.
http://www.investinganswers.com/term/price-earnings-ratio-pe-459
A valuation method of a company’s current share price compared to its per-share earnings.
How It Works/Example:
The market value per share is the current trading price for one share in a company, a relatively straightforward definition. However, earnings per share (EPS) may not be as intuitive for most investors. The more traditional and widely used version of the EPS calculation comes from the previous four quarters of the price-to-earnings ratio, called a trailing P/E. Another variation of the EPS can be calculated using a forward P/E, estimating the earnings for the upcoming four quarters. Both sides have their advantages, with the trailing P/E approach using actual data and the forward P/E predicting possible outcomes for the stock. Calculated as the following;
Price-to-Earnings Ratio (P/E) = Market value per share / Earnings Per Share (EPS)
Moving on from the basics, let us do a sample calculation with company XYZ that currently trades at $100.00 and has an earnings per share (EPS) of $5.00. Using the previously mentioned formula, you can calculate that XYZ’s price-to-earnings ratio is 100 / 5 = 20.
For more explanation of how to use the P/E ratio in conjunction with other valuation ratios, please read our educational article Don't Be Misled By the P/E Ratio
Why It Matters:
The price-to-earnings ratio is a powerful, but limited tool. For investors, it allows a very quick snapshot of the company’s finances without getting bogged down in the details of an accounting report.
Let us use our previous example of XYZ, and compare it to another company, ABC. Company XYZ has a P/E of 20, while company ABC has a P/E of 10. Company XYZ has the highest P/E ratio of the two and this would lead most investors to expect higher earnings in the future than from company ABC (which possesses a lower P/E ratio).
As noted earlier, the P/E ratio is limited. It does not paint the entire picture for the potential investor; rather it is a complementary tool in your financial toolbox. Be wary of forward EPS measures, (remember, EPS is an essential aspect of calculation of the P/E ratio) as they are matters of prediction and are only estimates of projected earnings. Further, trailing P/E ratios can only tell you what happened to a company in the previous time periods.
http://www.investinganswers.com/term/price-earnings-ratio-pe-459
Thursday, 22 April 2010
Understanding The Intricacies Of Price–Earnings Ratio
By Ernest Lim
Readers may be surprised why I am writing an article on price-earnings (PE) ratio, as it is one of the oldest and widely known ratios around. They are often quoted by analysts, stock brokers and readers. Most people know how to calculate a PE ratio and they know that a low PE signifies that the stock is cheap and vice versa. However, is this really the case? Should one buy a low PE stock over an average PE stock? Or should we consider other factors? These are the intricacies, which I will explore in this article.
For readers who are unaware on how to calculate PE ratios, I have listed two usual ways below to calculate them.
The PE ratio is meaningless by itself. We have to examine it using the following two common techniques.
We can either compare the PE ratio against that of individual companies, or against an average PE of firms in similar industry. There are two general points to note. Firstly, if the company is trading at a lower PE than its peers, it is cheaper than its peers. Secondly, different industries have different PE ratios. This is because some industries either experience higher growth rates, or stable growth rates with lower risk, thus they are able to sport higher PE ratios.
The company’s PE ratio is compared against a three, or five, or a ten year time period to determine whether it is priced cheaply against its historical valuations. We should be cognizant not to use a period which is too short (i.e. < 3 years) as it may not have captured the entire business cycle of the company. Furthermore, the PE ratio may be affected by extreme events. For example, the PE ratios of most companies slumped to single digit levels between 2008 and 2009.
However, if we were to compare the ratio against a fifteen year data, it may be too long. The industry dynamics or the company’s fundamentals may have evolved over time. In my opinion, I will use either a five or ten year time period.
Oftentimes, I hear readers express disbelief on stocks which have extremely low PE ratios. There may be several reasons why a stock has a low PE ratio. Below are some of the reasons.
A stock with low or zero expected growth in its future earnings per share is unlikely to be ascribed a high PE ratio. Thus, PE ratios should be complemented with another ratio called “Price earnings to growth ratio”
(PEG). This is calculated in the manner below:
PEG = PE / growth rate in annual earnings per share
Generally,
If PEG ratio < 1, company is undervalued.
If PEG ratio > 1, company is overvalued.
Therefore, besides looking at PE ratio, one has to take into account of the company’s growth rate to determine whether the company with the low PE is justified.
Firstly, I believe most readers would agree that the quality of the management is critical to the long term viability of the company. If management is incompetent, it is very difficult for the company to consistently generate an above average return on equity. It is more likely that over the long term, the incompetent management may have destroyed shareholder’s value. Thus, it is justified for the stock with poor management to have a low PE ratio.
Secondly, a company which has, or just had accounting irregularities before will command a lower PE ratio. This is because investors would have doubts on its financial figures (e.g. earnings), and consequently give a lower PE ratio to the stock.
Usually, an outstanding company may have a low PE, simply because investors do not understand the company well. This is due to inadequate communication between the management and the shareholders. Some companies’ management may view that it is sufficient just by doing their business well and they are unlikely to spend additional time to engage with the shareholders and the investment community. Some management may believe that value speaks for itself. However, for listed firms, it is unlikely that pure devotion to work can deliver outstanding stock returns and high PE ratios for the firms. This is because if shareholders and the investment community do not understand the companies, it is difficult for them to feel confident on the companies’ earnings and prospects, and this will affect the PE ratios that the companies can command.
A company may have experienced one or two quarters which is poorer than analysts’ estimates and investors may punish the share price, sending its PE to a figure which is lower than its peers. For this company, it would be good to do some detailed fundamental analysis to ascertain whether this sub par performance is permanent or temporary. If the company has just hit some temporary obstacles, which resulted in posting poorer than expected results, then it may be good to start to accumulate the stock if investors believe that the company can turn around soon.
Separately, a great company may have a low PE in an industry which is facing lackluster growth rates. This is because investors (rightfully) believe that it is generally difficult for a company to post above average earnings growth rate in a poor industry. However, there is one exception to this. If the company, such as China Gaoxian, is sporting a low PE ratio in an industry, which is starting to rebound from the trough, it may be a good idea to accumulate in this company.
Readers should be aware that PE ratio is a function of price and earnings. Earnings are based on accounting principles and thus the choice of accounting principles would have an impact on the earnings. For example, given the same assets, net income for company A will change depending on whether he uses a straight line depreciation for its assets or a double declining balance method. Thus, the quality of the PE ratio is dependent on the quality of earnings.
Although the PE ratio is one of the most widely known ratios around, it is pertinent for readers to understand the intricacies in the application of the PE ratio. By doing so, the PE ratio will become another effective tool in the investors’ armoury in finding good investment opportunities.
1 It depends on the type of earnings used in calculating the PE ratio. It can be historical, or current, or future earnings. In my example, I have used China Gaoxian’s FY10F earnings per share, thus the earnings used is current year’s earnings.
Ernest Lim currently works as an assistant treasury and investment manager. Prior to this role, he was with Legacy Capital Group Pte Ltd, a boutique asset management and private equity firm, as an investment manager since 2006. He received a Bachelor of Accountancy (Honours) from Nanyang Technological University in 2005. He is a Chartered Financial Analyst, as well as, a Certified Public Accountant Singapore. He is currently taking a short break before embarking on a new role.
http://www.sharesinv.com/articles/2010/04/16/intricacies-of-pe-ratio/
Comment: An excellent article on PE
Readers may be surprised why I am writing an article on price-earnings (PE) ratio, as it is one of the oldest and widely known ratios around. They are often quoted by analysts, stock brokers and readers. Most people know how to calculate a PE ratio and they know that a low PE signifies that the stock is cheap and vice versa. However, is this really the case? Should one buy a low PE stock over an average PE stock? Or should we consider other factors? These are the intricacies, which I will explore in this article.
What is PE ratio?
PE ratio means how many times current year’s earnings1 that investors are willing to pay for the company stock. For example, according to my estimates, China Gaoxian FY10F PE is only around 3.0x. This means that investors are only willing to pay about 3x Gaoxian’s current year earnings (i.e. FY10F earnings) for Gaoxian stock. In other words, it reflects the confidence that investors have in the stock. Is this a sure signal that Gaoxian is undervalued? I will discuss more on low PE stocks in the paragraphs below.PE ratio – how to calculate?
For readers who are unaware on how to calculate PE ratios, I have listed two usual ways below to calculate them.
- Market price of the company (i.e. market capitalization) / net income of the company; or
- Price per share of the company / earnings per share of the company
Interpretation of PE ratio
The PE ratio is meaningless by itself. We have to examine it using the following two common techniques.
Comparison with industry
We can either compare the PE ratio against that of individual companies, or against an average PE of firms in similar industry. There are two general points to note. Firstly, if the company is trading at a lower PE than its peers, it is cheaper than its peers. Secondly, different industries have different PE ratios. This is because some industries either experience higher growth rates, or stable growth rates with lower risk, thus they are able to sport higher PE ratios.
Comparison with time
The company’s PE ratio is compared against a three, or five, or a ten year time period to determine whether it is priced cheaply against its historical valuations. We should be cognizant not to use a period which is too short (i.e. < 3 years) as it may not have captured the entire business cycle of the company. Furthermore, the PE ratio may be affected by extreme events. For example, the PE ratios of most companies slumped to single digit levels between 2008 and 2009.
However, if we were to compare the ratio against a fifteen year data, it may be too long. The industry dynamics or the company’s fundamentals may have evolved over time. In my opinion, I will use either a five or ten year time period.
Reasons for a low PE
Oftentimes, I hear readers express disbelief on stocks which have extremely low PE ratios. There may be several reasons why a stock has a low PE ratio. Below are some of the reasons.
Growth – an important component
A stock with low or zero expected growth in its future earnings per share is unlikely to be ascribed a high PE ratio. Thus, PE ratios should be complemented with another ratio called “Price earnings to growth ratio”
(PEG). This is calculated in the manner below:
PEG = PE / growth rate in annual earnings per share
Generally,
If PEG ratio < 1, company is undervalued.
If PEG ratio > 1, company is overvalued.
Therefore, besides looking at PE ratio, one has to take into account of the company’s growth rate to determine whether the company with the low PE is justified.
Incompetent or dishonest management
Firstly, I believe most readers would agree that the quality of the management is critical to the long term viability of the company. If management is incompetent, it is very difficult for the company to consistently generate an above average return on equity. It is more likely that over the long term, the incompetent management may have destroyed shareholder’s value. Thus, it is justified for the stock with poor management to have a low PE ratio.
Secondly, a company which has, or just had accounting irregularities before will command a lower PE ratio. This is because investors would have doubts on its financial figures (e.g. earnings), and consequently give a lower PE ratio to the stock.
Poor communication with shareholders
Usually, an outstanding company may have a low PE, simply because investors do not understand the company well. This is due to inadequate communication between the management and the shareholders. Some companies’ management may view that it is sufficient just by doing their business well and they are unlikely to spend additional time to engage with the shareholders and the investment community. Some management may believe that value speaks for itself. However, for listed firms, it is unlikely that pure devotion to work can deliver outstanding stock returns and high PE ratios for the firms. This is because if shareholders and the investment community do not understand the companies, it is difficult for them to feel confident on the companies’ earnings and prospects, and this will affect the PE ratios that the companies can command.
Temporary downturn in the company or industry
A company may have experienced one or two quarters which is poorer than analysts’ estimates and investors may punish the share price, sending its PE to a figure which is lower than its peers. For this company, it would be good to do some detailed fundamental analysis to ascertain whether this sub par performance is permanent or temporary. If the company has just hit some temporary obstacles, which resulted in posting poorer than expected results, then it may be good to start to accumulate the stock if investors believe that the company can turn around soon.
Separately, a great company may have a low PE in an industry which is facing lackluster growth rates. This is because investors (rightfully) believe that it is generally difficult for a company to post above average earnings growth rate in a poor industry. However, there is one exception to this. If the company, such as China Gaoxian, is sporting a low PE ratio in an industry, which is starting to rebound from the trough, it may be a good idea to accumulate in this company.
PE ratio – May be subject to manipulation
Readers should be aware that PE ratio is a function of price and earnings. Earnings are based on accounting principles and thus the choice of accounting principles would have an impact on the earnings. For example, given the same assets, net income for company A will change depending on whether he uses a straight line depreciation for its assets or a double declining balance method. Thus, the quality of the PE ratio is dependent on the quality of earnings.
Conclusion
Although the PE ratio is one of the most widely known ratios around, it is pertinent for readers to understand the intricacies in the application of the PE ratio. By doing so, the PE ratio will become another effective tool in the investors’ armoury in finding good investment opportunities.
1 It depends on the type of earnings used in calculating the PE ratio. It can be historical, or current, or future earnings. In my example, I have used China Gaoxian’s FY10F earnings per share, thus the earnings used is current year’s earnings.
Ernest Lim currently works as an assistant treasury and investment manager. Prior to this role, he was with Legacy Capital Group Pte Ltd, a boutique asset management and private equity firm, as an investment manager since 2006. He received a Bachelor of Accountancy (Honours) from Nanyang Technological University in 2005. He is a Chartered Financial Analyst, as well as, a Certified Public Accountant Singapore. He is currently taking a short break before embarking on a new role.
http://www.sharesinv.com/articles/2010/04/16/intricacies-of-pe-ratio/
Comment: An excellent article on PE
Friday, 13 November 2009
Combining P/E and P/Sales to determine a stock's valuation
Stock Valuation - The Price to Earnings Ratio
In my previous article, I wrote about the Price to Sales Ratio, a very valuable tool in a value investor's toolbox. I now continue the Stock Valuation series with another valuable tool - The Price to Earnings Ratio. All of the tools in this series are valuable by themselves, but when combined together, they make the task of stock picking methodical and very profitable.
The Price to Earnings Ratio is also known as the Earnings Multiple or Price Multiple. Most people refer to the ratio simply as the "P/E".
The formula for calculating the P/E is simple: P/E Ratio = Share Price / Earnings per Share
For example, if a stock is trading at $22.00 per share, and trailing earnings is $1.15 per share, the P/E ratio is 19.13 (22.00/1.15).
Typically, the lower the P/E, the more attractive the stock is to a value investor. Just like the Price to Sales Ratio, the P/E is very useful for comparing multiple companies within the same industry.
Let's compare the P/E's for two companies:
Pear Computer:
Share Price: 54.27
Earnings per share: 5.72
P/E Ratio: 54.27 / 5.72 = 9.49
Fastway Computers:
Share Price: 38.12
Earnings per share: 1.96
P/E Ratio: 38.12 / 1.96 = 19.45
As you can see, Pear Computer has a much lower P/E than Fastway Computers.
The P/E is referred to as the "multiple", because it indicates how much investors are willing to pay per dollar of earnings. If a stock is trading at a multiple (P/E) of 15, that means that an investor is willing to pay $15.00 for every $1.00 of earnings. A high P/E is a warning sign that a stock may be over bought, which means it may be "hyped up" and valued too high.
Even though the P/E is a valuable tool, it is very important that you don't base the value of a stock on its P/E alone. The reason for this is, the earnings figure is based on the honesty of the company's accounting practices and is susceptible to manipulation. You should always use the Price to Sales Ratio, that I wrote about previously, in addition to the P/E to determine a stock's valuation.
Let's add in the Price to Sales Ratio to our two stocks and see how they compare (see my previous article for the Price to Sales calculation:
Pear Computer:
P/E = 9.49
Price to Sales = 1.46
Fastway Computers:
P/E = 19.45
Price to Sales = 3.15
By comparing the ratios of these two stocks, it is clear which one has the better value. Both the P/E and the Price to Sales are more than double for Fastway compared to Pear. When it comes to picking stocks for a portfolio of value stocks, Pear Computer is the clear winner.
http://www.xomba.com/stock_valuation_price_earnings_ratio
http://www.xomba.com/stock_valuation_price_sales_ratio
In my previous article, I wrote about the Price to Sales Ratio, a very valuable tool in a value investor's toolbox. I now continue the Stock Valuation series with another valuable tool - The Price to Earnings Ratio. All of the tools in this series are valuable by themselves, but when combined together, they make the task of stock picking methodical and very profitable.
The Price to Earnings Ratio is also known as the Earnings Multiple or Price Multiple. Most people refer to the ratio simply as the "P/E".
The formula for calculating the P/E is simple: P/E Ratio = Share Price / Earnings per Share
For example, if a stock is trading at $22.00 per share, and trailing earnings is $1.15 per share, the P/E ratio is 19.13 (22.00/1.15).
Typically, the lower the P/E, the more attractive the stock is to a value investor. Just like the Price to Sales Ratio, the P/E is very useful for comparing multiple companies within the same industry.
Let's compare the P/E's for two companies:
Pear Computer:
Share Price: 54.27
Earnings per share: 5.72
P/E Ratio: 54.27 / 5.72 = 9.49
Fastway Computers:
Share Price: 38.12
Earnings per share: 1.96
P/E Ratio: 38.12 / 1.96 = 19.45
As you can see, Pear Computer has a much lower P/E than Fastway Computers.
The P/E is referred to as the "multiple", because it indicates how much investors are willing to pay per dollar of earnings. If a stock is trading at a multiple (P/E) of 15, that means that an investor is willing to pay $15.00 for every $1.00 of earnings. A high P/E is a warning sign that a stock may be over bought, which means it may be "hyped up" and valued too high.
Even though the P/E is a valuable tool, it is very important that you don't base the value of a stock on its P/E alone. The reason for this is, the earnings figure is based on the honesty of the company's accounting practices and is susceptible to manipulation. You should always use the Price to Sales Ratio, that I wrote about previously, in addition to the P/E to determine a stock's valuation.
Let's add in the Price to Sales Ratio to our two stocks and see how they compare (see my previous article for the Price to Sales calculation:
Pear Computer:
P/E = 9.49
Price to Sales = 1.46
Fastway Computers:
P/E = 19.45
Price to Sales = 3.15
By comparing the ratios of these two stocks, it is clear which one has the better value. Both the P/E and the Price to Sales are more than double for Fastway compared to Pear. When it comes to picking stocks for a portfolio of value stocks, Pear Computer is the clear winner.
http://www.xomba.com/stock_valuation_price_earnings_ratio
http://www.xomba.com/stock_valuation_price_sales_ratio
Fair market valuation of a business
Fair market valuation of a business
Table of earnings multiples for groups of industries
(choose the earnings multiple for the industry closest to the one you are valuing)
Very narrow profit variation - 10 times average earnings
Cosmetics; Food; Tobacco; Utilities
Moderately narrow profit variation - 9 times average earnings
Amusement; Beverages; Chemical; Container; Drug; Meat Packing; Oil; Paper / Paper Products; Retail Trade; Sugar; Textile
Moderately wide profit variation - 7 times average earnings
Advertising; Agricultural Impt.; Aviation; Boots and Shoes; Coal; Electrical Equipment; Household Products; Financial; Leather; Office Equipment; Printing; Publishing; Radio; Railroad; Rubber; Shipping; Ship Building
Very wide profit variation - 6 times average earnings
Automobiles; Automobile Accessories; Construction; Machinery; Non-Ferrous Met.; R.R. Equipment; Steel
http://www.investordesktop.com/calcs/calcs/busins_fmvb_tbl.htm
Table of earnings multiples for groups of industries
(choose the earnings multiple for the industry closest to the one you are valuing)
Very narrow profit variation - 10 times average earnings
Cosmetics; Food; Tobacco; Utilities
Moderately narrow profit variation - 9 times average earnings
Amusement; Beverages; Chemical; Container; Drug; Meat Packing; Oil; Paper / Paper Products; Retail Trade; Sugar; Textile
Moderately wide profit variation - 7 times average earnings
Advertising; Agricultural Impt.; Aviation; Boots and Shoes; Coal; Electrical Equipment; Household Products; Financial; Leather; Office Equipment; Printing; Publishing; Radio; Railroad; Rubber; Shipping; Ship Building
Very wide profit variation - 6 times average earnings
Automobiles; Automobile Accessories; Construction; Machinery; Non-Ferrous Met.; R.R. Equipment; Steel
http://www.investordesktop.com/calcs/calcs/busins_fmvb_tbl.htm
Price to earnings ratio (P/E ratio) explained
Price to earnings ratio (P/E ratio) explained
by Kenneth W. McCarty
Price to earnings ratio (P/E ratio sometimes referred to as the multiple) is the current price per share divided by a years worth of earnings per share (EPS) for a particular stock. It is an important indicator of perceived value for a stock. Often it is used to compare two different stocks in the same sector (or two sectors in a given market) in an effort to find the better "deal". It sounds simple enough, but in practice it is a bit more complicated.
Not all publicly traded companies have earnings (they can have losses instead), yet these stocks clearly have value. P/E in such circumstance cannot be relied upon when it is negative or undefined. Much more important for estimating the current value of this type of equity are such things as cash on hand and other tangible assets. Some investors may anticipate that the stock will eventually have real earnings and add perceived value to the stock based on this assumption.
A backwards or "trailing" P/E takes into account only the earnings for the past year. In a "Bull Market", this form of P/E can be considered an indicator for the floor of a stock's share price. Instead of estimates, the earnings stated in the last 4 quarterly reports are publicly known and are generally not subject to change at a whim (except when future reports become current or the company is forced to make restatements by the SEC or an unfavorable audit).
Many investors prefer to use a forward P/E instead. This speculative potential of the stock's perceived worth that may or may not be added into the price anticipates and uses earnings over the next 12 months. Market forces determine how reliable such calculated predictions are and adjust prices accordingly. Company track records and economic influences are used by traders to judge the reliability of those numbers.
The difference between the two values that forward and backward P/E represent helps create volatility in the price of the stock as traders try to forecast earnings. Different stocks trade over different ranges of multiples for a variety of reasons. Many stocks in mature industries historically tend to trade between multiples of 10 and 20. Technology stocks that have real earnings often trade between multiples of 20 and 40. A company that has significant revenue growth may deserve a much higher multiple than this because the implication is that notable future earnings growth will continue to occur. When track records for 10Q quarterly reports are consistently positive, investors tend to follow the idea that solid companies under good management will continue to notify the market of future earnings growth. Investors like to trade on trends because "the trend is your friend".
When traders and investors on the market either become extremely pessimistic or optimistic, historical range standards for P/Es generally do not hold true over the short-term. During the height of the stock bubble of 1999 and 2000, too many stocks traded with ratios over 500! Such imbalances are eventually corrected and that is what happened. Knowing the historical standards gives us insight into why those stock prices eventually crashed so abruptly and steeply. The trend could no longer continue.
In contrast, currently there is a dramatic pessimism depressing prices in the stock market (since November of 2007). I've seen a number of technology stocks trade with a backward P/E of 10 or lower. Certainly in this financial environment a P/E of around 15 seems common for even a technology stock! Some might even consider the trend justified because of the implications inherent from a failing sub-prime loan market. Yet these P/E ratios are far below the historic average even in the worst of times.
Even more unusual is that some of those same stocks are experiencing record breaking increased earnings with projected significant earnings growth - despite the continued horrendous condition of the financial sector. Some of these stock's earnings performance over the last 6 to 9 months have even been better than the most optimistic expectations. Yet a few of these top performers have had their price cut nearly in half with little to no recovery! Clearly there are forces other than just P/E ratios and growth potential at work when the market determines the worth of a given stock at any given time. Part of my job as a trader is to ask why this is happening at this particular time and respond appropriately. Keep in mind that history tells us a significant correction to the upside is inevitable once investors recognize the "good deals" available.
http://www.helium.com/items/1082973-what-is-pe-ratio
by Kenneth W. McCarty
Price to earnings ratio (P/E ratio sometimes referred to as the multiple) is the current price per share divided by a years worth of earnings per share (EPS) for a particular stock. It is an important indicator of perceived value for a stock. Often it is used to compare two different stocks in the same sector (or two sectors in a given market) in an effort to find the better "deal". It sounds simple enough, but in practice it is a bit more complicated.
Not all publicly traded companies have earnings (they can have losses instead), yet these stocks clearly have value. P/E in such circumstance cannot be relied upon when it is negative or undefined. Much more important for estimating the current value of this type of equity are such things as cash on hand and other tangible assets. Some investors may anticipate that the stock will eventually have real earnings and add perceived value to the stock based on this assumption.
A backwards or "trailing" P/E takes into account only the earnings for the past year. In a "Bull Market", this form of P/E can be considered an indicator for the floor of a stock's share price. Instead of estimates, the earnings stated in the last 4 quarterly reports are publicly known and are generally not subject to change at a whim (except when future reports become current or the company is forced to make restatements by the SEC or an unfavorable audit).
Many investors prefer to use a forward P/E instead. This speculative potential of the stock's perceived worth that may or may not be added into the price anticipates and uses earnings over the next 12 months. Market forces determine how reliable such calculated predictions are and adjust prices accordingly. Company track records and economic influences are used by traders to judge the reliability of those numbers.
The difference between the two values that forward and backward P/E represent helps create volatility in the price of the stock as traders try to forecast earnings. Different stocks trade over different ranges of multiples for a variety of reasons. Many stocks in mature industries historically tend to trade between multiples of 10 and 20. Technology stocks that have real earnings often trade between multiples of 20 and 40. A company that has significant revenue growth may deserve a much higher multiple than this because the implication is that notable future earnings growth will continue to occur. When track records for 10Q quarterly reports are consistently positive, investors tend to follow the idea that solid companies under good management will continue to notify the market of future earnings growth. Investors like to trade on trends because "the trend is your friend".
When traders and investors on the market either become extremely pessimistic or optimistic, historical range standards for P/Es generally do not hold true over the short-term. During the height of the stock bubble of 1999 and 2000, too many stocks traded with ratios over 500! Such imbalances are eventually corrected and that is what happened. Knowing the historical standards gives us insight into why those stock prices eventually crashed so abruptly and steeply. The trend could no longer continue.
In contrast, currently there is a dramatic pessimism depressing prices in the stock market (since November of 2007). I've seen a number of technology stocks trade with a backward P/E of 10 or lower. Certainly in this financial environment a P/E of around 15 seems common for even a technology stock! Some might even consider the trend justified because of the implications inherent from a failing sub-prime loan market. Yet these P/E ratios are far below the historic average even in the worst of times.
Even more unusual is that some of those same stocks are experiencing record breaking increased earnings with projected significant earnings growth - despite the continued horrendous condition of the financial sector. Some of these stock's earnings performance over the last 6 to 9 months have even been better than the most optimistic expectations. Yet a few of these top performers have had their price cut nearly in half with little to no recovery! Clearly there are forces other than just P/E ratios and growth potential at work when the market determines the worth of a given stock at any given time. Part of my job as a trader is to ask why this is happening at this particular time and respond appropriately. Keep in mind that history tells us a significant correction to the upside is inevitable once investors recognize the "good deals" available.
http://www.helium.com/items/1082973-what-is-pe-ratio
WHAT DOES PE RATIO TELL YOU?
WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU?
The P/E ratio gives us an idea of how much the investors are willing to pay for the company's earnings. The higher the P/E, more the chances of good earnings in the future and the higher premium investors are ready to pay for that anticipated growth. A lower ratio on the other hand means just the opposite; that the market has ruled out the company.
But just because the ratio is very high or very low cannot help investors to make a decision. A high P/E can also be an overpriced stock. Also if one stock has double the P/E of another stock in the same industry, but with the same rate of earnings growth, it is not seen to be a wise investment as more money has to be shelled out. A low P/E ratio may be a market that was overlooked. The investors who discover the true worth of such stocks make big fortunes overnight.
There are various interpretations for the P/E value and this is just one of them:
*N/A: A company with no earnings has an undefined P/E ratio. Companies with losses or negative earnings also fall under this category.
*0-10: This means that the company's earnings are declining. It could also mean an overlooked stock.
*10-17: This is the average healthy value
*17-25: This means that the stock is either overvalued or its earnings are increasing.
*25+: Such companies are expected to have high future growth in earnings.
It is important that investors note avoid basing a decision on this measure alone. The ratio is dependent on share price which can fluctuate according to changes in the market.
http://www.helium.com/items/1059698-price-to-earnings-ratio-pe-ratio-explained
The P/E ratio gives us an idea of how much the investors are willing to pay for the company's earnings. The higher the P/E, more the chances of good earnings in the future and the higher premium investors are ready to pay for that anticipated growth. A lower ratio on the other hand means just the opposite; that the market has ruled out the company.
But just because the ratio is very high or very low cannot help investors to make a decision. A high P/E can also be an overpriced stock. Also if one stock has double the P/E of another stock in the same industry, but with the same rate of earnings growth, it is not seen to be a wise investment as more money has to be shelled out. A low P/E ratio may be a market that was overlooked. The investors who discover the true worth of such stocks make big fortunes overnight.
There are various interpretations for the P/E value and this is just one of them:
*N/A: A company with no earnings has an undefined P/E ratio. Companies with losses or negative earnings also fall under this category.
*0-10: This means that the company's earnings are declining. It could also mean an overlooked stock.
*10-17: This is the average healthy value
*17-25: This means that the stock is either overvalued or its earnings are increasing.
*25+: Such companies are expected to have high future growth in earnings.
It is important that investors note avoid basing a decision on this measure alone. The ratio is dependent on share price which can fluctuate according to changes in the market.
http://www.helium.com/items/1059698-price-to-earnings-ratio-pe-ratio-explained
****A P/E ratio is a much better indicator of a stock's value than its market price alone.
Everything You Must Know About The P/E Ratio
And as a bonus, the PEG ration as well.
By Mark Vergenes
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Question: What is a P/E and PEG Ratio?
The usefulness of the price-to-earnings (P/E) and price-to-earnings growth (PEG) ratios depends on how they are calculated, what kind of market you're in, and how well you grasp their limitations. This overview can help you understand the mechanics underlying these common valuation measures and better finesse stock and market evaluations.
It's so simple, it often seems sublime. The term "P/E" or "price/earnings ratio" gets bandied about so freely, it's easy to assume that everyone knows what it is and how it's used. The ratio is one of the oldest and most frequently used metrics for valuing stocks. Though simple to construct, a P/E ratio is actually difficult to interpret. It can be extremely informative in some situations, yet virtually meaningless in other contexts.
P/E ratio explained
As the name implies, the ratio expresses the relationship of a company's per-share earnings to its stock price. To calculate the P/E, simply divide a stock's current market price (CMP) by its issuer's earnings per share (EPS):
P/E = CMP ÷ EPS
Typically, P/E ratios are historic in nature. These "trailing" P/Es are calculated using EPS from the preceding four quarters. A "leading" or "projected" P/E, alternatively, is derived from earnings expected over the coming four quarters. This P/E, of course, is an estimate. Hybrid P/Es can also be created using the EPS of the past two quarters and estimates for the next two quarters. The P/E ratio is also often called the "multiple" because it shows how much investors are willing to pay for each $1 of a company's earnings. Not all companies, of course, produce profits. And it's these operations that create problems for analysts cranking out P/Es. When the divisor is negative (losses, after all, are manifested as negative EPS), some analysts report a negative P/E, while others bestow a P/E of zero on the company. Most analysts, however, just say the P/E doesn't exist.
The market P/E--at least, the market represented by the S&P 500 Index--has historically ranged between 15 and 25. A market P/E of over 18 is usually considered expensive, while a market P/E under 10 is considered inexpensive or undervalued. P/Es can also vary widely among different market segments. The P/E for the technology sector as of March 2005, for example, is around 28, while the overall multiple for financial companies is not quite 16.
Interpreting a P/E ratio
On the surface, a stock's P/E indicates the price the public is willing to pay for a company's earnings. A P/E ratio of 25, for example, suggests that investors are ready to fork over $25 for every $1 of company profits. Since a stock's price not only reflects a firm's worth now but also what investors think it will be worth in the future, this simplistic interpretation of P/E ignores growth prospects. Using forward EPS projections compensates in some measure for this.
P/Es are one of the metrics used to classify stocks as "growth" or "value" plays. As a rule of thumb, most stocks trade with P/Es 50 percent higher than their forecasted annual earnings growth. For example, a P/E of 30 would be considered reasonable for a company expected to grow earnings around 20 percent annually. That company's stock might be classified as a "growth" issue (ignoring all other factors) if it were priced above a 30 P/E, while a ratio under 30 might tip it into the "value" category.
A high P/E--that is, one above a company's "reasonable" earnings multiple or higher than the market or industry average--typically indicates very optimistic earnings prospects. A company brandishing a high P/E ratio eventually has to live up to these expectations, of course, or see its stock price drop as a consequence. A stock with a high P/E can still be a good buy for the long term, but further research may be needed to justify the price. Extreme ratios--multiples in the thousands, for instance--are typical of startups with little or no revenues.
What is "cheap"?
A P/E ratio is a much better indicator of a stock's value than its market price alone. All things being equal, a $10 stock with a P/E of 50 is much more "expensive" than a $100 stock with a P/E of 20. There are limits to this form of analysis, of course. A particular P/E can only be considered high or low by taking into account other factors, namely:
• Growth rates. How fast has the company been growing in the past, and is that rate expected to increase or at least continue into the future? A stratospheric P/E sported by a company that's growing earnings at a measly 5 percent annual clip might very well be overpriced.
• Industry. Apples, of course, should only be compared to other apples. Financial companies like banks typically have low multiples, while technology stocks' P/Es tend to be high. Using P/E to compare a tech company to a bank offers little actionable information. It's better to compare companies to others in the same industry or to the industry average.
Problems with P/E
While P/E ratios can point out overvalued or undervalued companies, P/E analysis is valid only in certain circumstances. For one thing, accounting rules change over time and vary from one country to the next, complicating cross-border analysis or historic comparisons. The inclusion of non-cash items, such as depreciation, into earnings further clouds the picture. Worse still, EPS can be presented in a variety of ways depending on how a company or an analyst chooses to do the math. EPS can be based upon either outstanding or fully diluted shares, for example. "Pro forma" EPS presentations can be especially vexing in comparisons, making it difficult to discern if apples are actually put up against apples.
Most importantly, P/E ratios are strongly influenced by inflation. P/Es, as a rule, head south during times of high inflation because of the resulting understatement of inventory and depreciation costs. The flip-side of this coin is that P/E ratios often seem lofty in periods of low inflation. When inflation moderates, central bank rate hikes become less likely, creating expansive expectations for earnings. Additionally, earnings quality rises, meaning that companies' improved financial results are more likely to be attributed to actual growth rather than the inflation of asset prices.
Trading on P/E information
Keeping the foregoing in mind, traders tread the P/E waters carefully. A low P/E ratio doesn't automatically mean that a company is undervalued--it could actually spell trouble for the company in the near future. A company that has warned of lower-than-expected earnings, for example, might look undervalued if a trailing P/E is used as the basis for analysis. Conversely, a high P/E ratio might mean that a stock is overvalued, but that's hardly a guarantee that its price will fall anytime soon. A P/E ratio is only one part of the jigsaw puzzle that is security analysis.
Factoring in growth
While P/Es can be useful in comparing one company to another in the same industry, to the market in general, or to a company's own historical ratios, their utility is still limited. Some analysts complain that P/Es, even when based upon projected EPS, don't accurately measure a company's performance in relation to its growth potential. Factors affecting a company's growth rate--the value of its brand value, its human capital, and the like--aren't reflected in a P/E alone, they say.
Enter the "PEG" or "price/earnings growth ratio" which expresses the relationship between a company's price/earnings ratio and its earnings growth. PEGs, say some pundits, help investors see whether a company is reasonably priced given future expectations. PEGs, too, permit direct comparison of companies across industries.
A PEG is formulated as:
PEG = P/E ratio ÷ annual EPS growth
As with P/Es, the number used for the annual growth rate can vary; rates can be trailing or forward looking and cover a one- to five-year time span. Most analysts argue that longer periods make for better analyses, since their use is less likely to produce outcomes skewed by short-term anomalies.
Simplistically, a PEG ratio equal to one means that the market is pricing the stock to fully reflect the stock's EPS growth. A PEG greater than one indicates a stock that is either overvalued or one that the market expects to outdo analysts' future EPS growth estimates. Growth stocks typically have PEG ratios greater than one, reflecting investors' willingness to pay more for growth at any price. Keep in mind, though, that a high PEG could also stem from recently lowered earnings forecasts.
Undervalued stocks can be signaled by a PEG ratio below one. Alternatively, the market may not expect the company to achieve the earnings growth reflected in Wall Street estimates. Value stocks reside in this territory, but a low PEG could also indicate that earnings expectations have fallen ahead of analysts' new forecasts.
PEGs, unlike P/Es, can be used to compare stocks across industries. Consider two candidates for inclusion in a portfolio. The first, a technology company growing its earnings at a 40 percent annual clip and bearing a P/E ratio of 90; and the second, a financial firm with net income growth at 25 percent, but with a P/E ratio of only 15.
Does the higher growth rate of the technology company justify its price? Or is the financial firm a better value play?
Technology Company
Financial Company
P/E Ratio
90
15
EPS Growth (%)
40
25
PEG Ratio
2.25
0.60
The financial company has a PEG ratio of 0.60 (15 ÷ 25), relatively low for its growth rate. The technology company, with its PEG ratio of 2.25 (90 ÷ 40), is quite pricey. Compared to its industry PEG, this stock may, in fact, be overpriced. Even though the technology company seemingly has higher growth prospects, this alone may not be worth the money that investors are forking out to own the stock. Because the purchase price is so high, an investor might not get a very good return on the stock if it does grow.
Conclusion
P/Es and PEGs can be useful tools for the evaluation of portfolio prospects, but they shouldn't be used in isolation. Like all financial ratios, investors need additional information to get a clear perspective on a company. To accurately determine if a company's stock is overvalued or undervalued, the company's P/E and PEG ratios should be regarded in relation to its peer group and the overall market.
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Mark A. Vergenes, CSA (mavergenes@ehd-ins.com) with EHD Advisory Services.
http://www.business2businessonline.com/pastissues/2005/june05/vergenes_june05.htm
And as a bonus, the PEG ration as well.
By Mark Vergenes
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Question: What is a P/E and PEG Ratio?
The usefulness of the price-to-earnings (P/E) and price-to-earnings growth (PEG) ratios depends on how they are calculated, what kind of market you're in, and how well you grasp their limitations. This overview can help you understand the mechanics underlying these common valuation measures and better finesse stock and market evaluations.
It's so simple, it often seems sublime. The term "P/E" or "price/earnings ratio" gets bandied about so freely, it's easy to assume that everyone knows what it is and how it's used. The ratio is one of the oldest and most frequently used metrics for valuing stocks. Though simple to construct, a P/E ratio is actually difficult to interpret. It can be extremely informative in some situations, yet virtually meaningless in other contexts.
P/E ratio explained
As the name implies, the ratio expresses the relationship of a company's per-share earnings to its stock price. To calculate the P/E, simply divide a stock's current market price (CMP) by its issuer's earnings per share (EPS):
P/E = CMP ÷ EPS
Typically, P/E ratios are historic in nature. These "trailing" P/Es are calculated using EPS from the preceding four quarters. A "leading" or "projected" P/E, alternatively, is derived from earnings expected over the coming four quarters. This P/E, of course, is an estimate. Hybrid P/Es can also be created using the EPS of the past two quarters and estimates for the next two quarters. The P/E ratio is also often called the "multiple" because it shows how much investors are willing to pay for each $1 of a company's earnings. Not all companies, of course, produce profits. And it's these operations that create problems for analysts cranking out P/Es. When the divisor is negative (losses, after all, are manifested as negative EPS), some analysts report a negative P/E, while others bestow a P/E of zero on the company. Most analysts, however, just say the P/E doesn't exist.
The market P/E--at least, the market represented by the S&P 500 Index--has historically ranged between 15 and 25. A market P/E of over 18 is usually considered expensive, while a market P/E under 10 is considered inexpensive or undervalued. P/Es can also vary widely among different market segments. The P/E for the technology sector as of March 2005, for example, is around 28, while the overall multiple for financial companies is not quite 16.
Interpreting a P/E ratio
On the surface, a stock's P/E indicates the price the public is willing to pay for a company's earnings. A P/E ratio of 25, for example, suggests that investors are ready to fork over $25 for every $1 of company profits. Since a stock's price not only reflects a firm's worth now but also what investors think it will be worth in the future, this simplistic interpretation of P/E ignores growth prospects. Using forward EPS projections compensates in some measure for this.
P/Es are one of the metrics used to classify stocks as "growth" or "value" plays. As a rule of thumb, most stocks trade with P/Es 50 percent higher than their forecasted annual earnings growth. For example, a P/E of 30 would be considered reasonable for a company expected to grow earnings around 20 percent annually. That company's stock might be classified as a "growth" issue (ignoring all other factors) if it were priced above a 30 P/E, while a ratio under 30 might tip it into the "value" category.
A high P/E--that is, one above a company's "reasonable" earnings multiple or higher than the market or industry average--typically indicates very optimistic earnings prospects. A company brandishing a high P/E ratio eventually has to live up to these expectations, of course, or see its stock price drop as a consequence. A stock with a high P/E can still be a good buy for the long term, but further research may be needed to justify the price. Extreme ratios--multiples in the thousands, for instance--are typical of startups with little or no revenues.
What is "cheap"?
A P/E ratio is a much better indicator of a stock's value than its market price alone. All things being equal, a $10 stock with a P/E of 50 is much more "expensive" than a $100 stock with a P/E of 20. There are limits to this form of analysis, of course. A particular P/E can only be considered high or low by taking into account other factors, namely:
• Growth rates. How fast has the company been growing in the past, and is that rate expected to increase or at least continue into the future? A stratospheric P/E sported by a company that's growing earnings at a measly 5 percent annual clip might very well be overpriced.
• Industry. Apples, of course, should only be compared to other apples. Financial companies like banks typically have low multiples, while technology stocks' P/Es tend to be high. Using P/E to compare a tech company to a bank offers little actionable information. It's better to compare companies to others in the same industry or to the industry average.
Problems with P/E
While P/E ratios can point out overvalued or undervalued companies, P/E analysis is valid only in certain circumstances. For one thing, accounting rules change over time and vary from one country to the next, complicating cross-border analysis or historic comparisons. The inclusion of non-cash items, such as depreciation, into earnings further clouds the picture. Worse still, EPS can be presented in a variety of ways depending on how a company or an analyst chooses to do the math. EPS can be based upon either outstanding or fully diluted shares, for example. "Pro forma" EPS presentations can be especially vexing in comparisons, making it difficult to discern if apples are actually put up against apples.
Most importantly, P/E ratios are strongly influenced by inflation. P/Es, as a rule, head south during times of high inflation because of the resulting understatement of inventory and depreciation costs. The flip-side of this coin is that P/E ratios often seem lofty in periods of low inflation. When inflation moderates, central bank rate hikes become less likely, creating expansive expectations for earnings. Additionally, earnings quality rises, meaning that companies' improved financial results are more likely to be attributed to actual growth rather than the inflation of asset prices.
Trading on P/E information
Keeping the foregoing in mind, traders tread the P/E waters carefully. A low P/E ratio doesn't automatically mean that a company is undervalued--it could actually spell trouble for the company in the near future. A company that has warned of lower-than-expected earnings, for example, might look undervalued if a trailing P/E is used as the basis for analysis. Conversely, a high P/E ratio might mean that a stock is overvalued, but that's hardly a guarantee that its price will fall anytime soon. A P/E ratio is only one part of the jigsaw puzzle that is security analysis.
Factoring in growth
While P/Es can be useful in comparing one company to another in the same industry, to the market in general, or to a company's own historical ratios, their utility is still limited. Some analysts complain that P/Es, even when based upon projected EPS, don't accurately measure a company's performance in relation to its growth potential. Factors affecting a company's growth rate--the value of its brand value, its human capital, and the like--aren't reflected in a P/E alone, they say.
Enter the "PEG" or "price/earnings growth ratio" which expresses the relationship between a company's price/earnings ratio and its earnings growth. PEGs, say some pundits, help investors see whether a company is reasonably priced given future expectations. PEGs, too, permit direct comparison of companies across industries.
A PEG is formulated as:
PEG = P/E ratio ÷ annual EPS growth
As with P/Es, the number used for the annual growth rate can vary; rates can be trailing or forward looking and cover a one- to five-year time span. Most analysts argue that longer periods make for better analyses, since their use is less likely to produce outcomes skewed by short-term anomalies.
Simplistically, a PEG ratio equal to one means that the market is pricing the stock to fully reflect the stock's EPS growth. A PEG greater than one indicates a stock that is either overvalued or one that the market expects to outdo analysts' future EPS growth estimates. Growth stocks typically have PEG ratios greater than one, reflecting investors' willingness to pay more for growth at any price. Keep in mind, though, that a high PEG could also stem from recently lowered earnings forecasts.
Undervalued stocks can be signaled by a PEG ratio below one. Alternatively, the market may not expect the company to achieve the earnings growth reflected in Wall Street estimates. Value stocks reside in this territory, but a low PEG could also indicate that earnings expectations have fallen ahead of analysts' new forecasts.
PEGs, unlike P/Es, can be used to compare stocks across industries. Consider two candidates for inclusion in a portfolio. The first, a technology company growing its earnings at a 40 percent annual clip and bearing a P/E ratio of 90; and the second, a financial firm with net income growth at 25 percent, but with a P/E ratio of only 15.
Does the higher growth rate of the technology company justify its price? Or is the financial firm a better value play?
Technology Company
Financial Company
P/E Ratio
90
15
EPS Growth (%)
40
25
PEG Ratio
2.25
0.60
The financial company has a PEG ratio of 0.60 (15 ÷ 25), relatively low for its growth rate. The technology company, with its PEG ratio of 2.25 (90 ÷ 40), is quite pricey. Compared to its industry PEG, this stock may, in fact, be overpriced. Even though the technology company seemingly has higher growth prospects, this alone may not be worth the money that investors are forking out to own the stock. Because the purchase price is so high, an investor might not get a very good return on the stock if it does grow.
Conclusion
P/Es and PEGs can be useful tools for the evaluation of portfolio prospects, but they shouldn't be used in isolation. Like all financial ratios, investors need additional information to get a clear perspective on a company. To accurately determine if a company's stock is overvalued or undervalued, the company's P/E and PEG ratios should be regarded in relation to its peer group and the overall market.
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Mark A. Vergenes, CSA (mavergenes@ehd-ins.com) with EHD Advisory Services.
http://www.business2businessonline.com/pastissues/2005/june05/vergenes_june05.htm
Thursday, 12 November 2009
How is a P/E multiple used?
The Price/Earnings Multiple Enigma
If the Price to Earnings Multiple (P/E) were to be judged by usage, it wins hands down compared to any other valuation metric. It is easy to compute, can be applied across companies and across sectors, with a few exceptions. What is this ratio, how is it computed, and how to use it are questions to which you will find answers in this section.
What is a P/E multiple?
The P/E multiple is the premium that the market is willing to pay on the earnings per share of a company, based on its future growth. The ratio is most often used to conclude whether a stock is undervalued or overvalued. The P/E is calculated by dividing the current market price of a company's stock by the last reported full-year earnings per share (EPS). In effect, the ratio uses the company's earnings as a guide to value it. The P/E thus computed is also known as the trailing or historical P/E since it uses the trailing (historical) EPS in its calculations. With the advent of quarterly results, it is also possible to compute P/E, based on the earnings of the latest four quarters’ EPS. This is known as trailing twelve months P/E.
A variant of the P/E - called the forward P/E - has also been developed wherein the current market price of the stock is divided by the expected future EPS. The attempt to study P/E ratios in this manner reflects the effort to factor in the expected growth of a company.
Since stock market valuations factor in the future expectations of the market, a P/E multiple computed using historical earnings can at best be of academic value since it does not factor in the future growth in earnings. It fails to capture events that may have happened after the earnings date. For example, suppose a merger happens after the earnings have been declared, a P/E multiple based on the historical P/E will fail to capture this event in the EPS whereas the price would reflect it, creating a distortion.
The forward P/E is popularly used to find out if the premium the market is willing to pay on the earnings is line with the growth expectations. For example, the market price of Stock A is Rs 1,000, with a P/E multiple of 30 based on historical earnings. Assuming an earnings growth of 50%, the one year forward P/E changes to 20, which means the market is willing to pay 30 times its historical earnings and 20 times its one-year forward earnings.
For an investor it makes much more sense to look at the forward P/E for taking an investment decision. Each investor would have his or her own expectations regarding the future earnings growth. To that extent the forward P/E for a particular stock will vary from investor to investor.
How is a P/E multiple used?
P/E multiples reflect collective investor perception regarding a company's future. This perception is a function of various factors, like industry growth prospects, company’s position in industry, its growth plans, quantum change expected in sales or profit growth, quality of management, and other macroeconomic factors like interest rates and inflation.
Is a stock trading at a P/E of 30 more expensive than a stock trading at a P/E of 60? Such a wide variation in P/E multiples can be owing to a few reasons. If the companies are in the same industry, it could be that the company with a high P/E may be one with superior size and financials, with better prospects or even better management. The market expects this stock to outperform its peers. If they are from different industries, it could also be due to different growth prospects. For example, an energy utility will have a more sedate earnings profile than say a software company.
Besides different expectations regarding future earnings growth, some of the difference in P/E can also be attributed to the disclosures made by the management to their shareholders. Hence, qualitative factors like transparency, quality of management also impact a stock's P/E.
Stock prices, in isolation do not give any indication whether the stock is undervalued or overvalued. They have to be viewed along with the company's future prospects to arrive at any conclusion. Generally, higher the expected growth in a company's earnings, higher is the P/E multiple that it attracts in the market. The time period used for P/E calculations depends on the investment horizon of the investor and would be different for each investor. However, P/E multiples cannot be applied to loss making companies since they do not have any earnings.
Price to Earnings Growth Multiple (PEG)
The PEG multiple takes the P/E analysis to the next stage. Since P/E ratios are computed based on historic earnings, they project an inaccurate picture of the future. The PEG multiple uses expected growth in earnings, to give investors additional information. The PEG divides the historical P/E ratio by the compounded annual growth rate of future earnings. Generally, the compounded earnings growth is calculated using the forecasted earnings for the next two-three years.
For example, if a company is quoting at a P/E of 60 based on historic earnings and the compounded annual growth rate of its earnings for the next three years is 20 per cent, then its PEG is 3.
The lower the PEG, the more attractive the stock becomes as an investment proposition. It is obviously more appealing to buy a stock on a P/E of 20 whose earnings are growing at 50 per cent than to buy a stock on a multiple of 50 whose earnings are growing at 20 per cent. As a thumb rule, stocks quoting at a PEG multiple below 0.5 are considered to be undervalued, 1 to be fairly valued, and 2 to be overvalued.
http://www.hdfcsec.com/KnowledgeCenter/Story.aspx?ArticleID=8153321b-8faa-4429-abba-bbfe5f29e77d
If the Price to Earnings Multiple (P/E) were to be judged by usage, it wins hands down compared to any other valuation metric. It is easy to compute, can be applied across companies and across sectors, with a few exceptions. What is this ratio, how is it computed, and how to use it are questions to which you will find answers in this section.
What is a P/E multiple?
The P/E multiple is the premium that the market is willing to pay on the earnings per share of a company, based on its future growth. The ratio is most often used to conclude whether a stock is undervalued or overvalued. The P/E is calculated by dividing the current market price of a company's stock by the last reported full-year earnings per share (EPS). In effect, the ratio uses the company's earnings as a guide to value it. The P/E thus computed is also known as the trailing or historical P/E since it uses the trailing (historical) EPS in its calculations. With the advent of quarterly results, it is also possible to compute P/E, based on the earnings of the latest four quarters’ EPS. This is known as trailing twelve months P/E.
A variant of the P/E - called the forward P/E - has also been developed wherein the current market price of the stock is divided by the expected future EPS. The attempt to study P/E ratios in this manner reflects the effort to factor in the expected growth of a company.
Since stock market valuations factor in the future expectations of the market, a P/E multiple computed using historical earnings can at best be of academic value since it does not factor in the future growth in earnings. It fails to capture events that may have happened after the earnings date. For example, suppose a merger happens after the earnings have been declared, a P/E multiple based on the historical P/E will fail to capture this event in the EPS whereas the price would reflect it, creating a distortion.
The forward P/E is popularly used to find out if the premium the market is willing to pay on the earnings is line with the growth expectations. For example, the market price of Stock A is Rs 1,000, with a P/E multiple of 30 based on historical earnings. Assuming an earnings growth of 50%, the one year forward P/E changes to 20, which means the market is willing to pay 30 times its historical earnings and 20 times its one-year forward earnings.
For an investor it makes much more sense to look at the forward P/E for taking an investment decision. Each investor would have his or her own expectations regarding the future earnings growth. To that extent the forward P/E for a particular stock will vary from investor to investor.
How is a P/E multiple used?
P/E multiples reflect collective investor perception regarding a company's future. This perception is a function of various factors, like industry growth prospects, company’s position in industry, its growth plans, quantum change expected in sales or profit growth, quality of management, and other macroeconomic factors like interest rates and inflation.
Is a stock trading at a P/E of 30 more expensive than a stock trading at a P/E of 60? Such a wide variation in P/E multiples can be owing to a few reasons. If the companies are in the same industry, it could be that the company with a high P/E may be one with superior size and financials, with better prospects or even better management. The market expects this stock to outperform its peers. If they are from different industries, it could also be due to different growth prospects. For example, an energy utility will have a more sedate earnings profile than say a software company.
Besides different expectations regarding future earnings growth, some of the difference in P/E can also be attributed to the disclosures made by the management to their shareholders. Hence, qualitative factors like transparency, quality of management also impact a stock's P/E.
Stock prices, in isolation do not give any indication whether the stock is undervalued or overvalued. They have to be viewed along with the company's future prospects to arrive at any conclusion. Generally, higher the expected growth in a company's earnings, higher is the P/E multiple that it attracts in the market. The time period used for P/E calculations depends on the investment horizon of the investor and would be different for each investor. However, P/E multiples cannot be applied to loss making companies since they do not have any earnings.
Price to Earnings Growth Multiple (PEG)
The PEG multiple takes the P/E analysis to the next stage. Since P/E ratios are computed based on historic earnings, they project an inaccurate picture of the future. The PEG multiple uses expected growth in earnings, to give investors additional information. The PEG divides the historical P/E ratio by the compounded annual growth rate of future earnings. Generally, the compounded earnings growth is calculated using the forecasted earnings for the next two-three years.
For example, if a company is quoting at a P/E of 60 based on historic earnings and the compounded annual growth rate of its earnings for the next three years is 20 per cent, then its PEG is 3.
The lower the PEG, the more attractive the stock becomes as an investment proposition. It is obviously more appealing to buy a stock on a P/E of 20 whose earnings are growing at 50 per cent than to buy a stock on a multiple of 50 whose earnings are growing at 20 per cent. As a thumb rule, stocks quoting at a PEG multiple below 0.5 are considered to be undervalued, 1 to be fairly valued, and 2 to be overvalued.
http://www.hdfcsec.com/KnowledgeCenter/Story.aspx?ArticleID=8153321b-8faa-4429-abba-bbfe5f29e77d
The earnings multiple valuation method
The earnings multiple valuation method
The earnings multiple valuation method is the preferred valuation method for most situations. It represents what someone would pay if you tried to sell under normal conditions, which is arguably the most appropriate valuation method for private equity investments.
In the broad strokes, this method entails applying an industry-based multiple to the earnings of a business to arrive at an implied enterprise value. From this enterprise value, subtracting net debt gives the equity value. In simple scenarios (involving only ordinary equity), a private equity firm’s relevant investment value is equal to their proportional stake in the investee’s equity.
The subjectivity of this method comes in the following forms:
•Do you use last year’s actual earnings number? Do you use a forecast? If so, whose forecast do you use? And what earnings are we talking about: NPBT, NPAT, EBIT, EBITDA? What about the effect of non-recurring costs, contributions from discontinued business units, forecast acquisition synergies, etc?
•What is an appropriate multiple? Are transactions from six months ago reasonable comparisons? Should I only use transactions from the same industry as comparables? What about company size: should I only compare those of similar size? What if there haven’t been any transactions for 12 months (this is especially applicable now)? Should I use the mean, mode or median of comparable transactions?
There are a lot of questions there and not many answers; it really depends on how honest you want to be with yourself and the limited partners. Here are my suggestions:
•Earnings - You should use the earnings number that you expect at the time of reporting. For example, this may be the current year’s EBIT forecast adjusted for the latest actual earnings figures (that is, if you were below budget, adjust the forecast months accordingly). If the trend is towards using the previous year’s earnings, then you should follow suit.
•Multiple - In the current climate, you may need to look outside your industry for trends, but also make sure to look for similar sized transactions. There’s no perfect multiple to use, but there’s certainly a range that will seem reasonable. I’d say in the current environment that anything over 8-10x would be unreasonable. For mid-market deals, I wouldn’t expect to see multiples over 6-7x, unless there is a strong case for exceptional growth. It may surprise you, but I’m seeing some interesting deals go for 3x now.
You’ll know in your own mind whether you’re being fair with your analysis. Try not to cheat yourself because there’s a real danger that it could come back to haunt you. There’s always the argument that if things really do get better, investors will be glad to see a significant uptick in your next report. If you’re too optimistic now, disappointing them twice will hardly be fun. Also, investors won’t be surprised with value losses now; they’re probably expecting them. So take this opportunity to take an honest look at your portfolio and move on to planning for the upturn (now there’s some positive thinking).
http://www.theprivateequiteer.com/the-earnings-multiple-valuation-method/
The earnings multiple valuation method is the preferred valuation method for most situations. It represents what someone would pay if you tried to sell under normal conditions, which is arguably the most appropriate valuation method for private equity investments.
In the broad strokes, this method entails applying an industry-based multiple to the earnings of a business to arrive at an implied enterprise value. From this enterprise value, subtracting net debt gives the equity value. In simple scenarios (involving only ordinary equity), a private equity firm’s relevant investment value is equal to their proportional stake in the investee’s equity.
The subjectivity of this method comes in the following forms:
•Do you use last year’s actual earnings number? Do you use a forecast? If so, whose forecast do you use? And what earnings are we talking about: NPBT, NPAT, EBIT, EBITDA? What about the effect of non-recurring costs, contributions from discontinued business units, forecast acquisition synergies, etc?
•What is an appropriate multiple? Are transactions from six months ago reasonable comparisons? Should I only use transactions from the same industry as comparables? What about company size: should I only compare those of similar size? What if there haven’t been any transactions for 12 months (this is especially applicable now)? Should I use the mean, mode or median of comparable transactions?
There are a lot of questions there and not many answers; it really depends on how honest you want to be with yourself and the limited partners. Here are my suggestions:
•Earnings - You should use the earnings number that you expect at the time of reporting. For example, this may be the current year’s EBIT forecast adjusted for the latest actual earnings figures (that is, if you were below budget, adjust the forecast months accordingly). If the trend is towards using the previous year’s earnings, then you should follow suit.
•Multiple - In the current climate, you may need to look outside your industry for trends, but also make sure to look for similar sized transactions. There’s no perfect multiple to use, but there’s certainly a range that will seem reasonable. I’d say in the current environment that anything over 8-10x would be unreasonable. For mid-market deals, I wouldn’t expect to see multiples over 6-7x, unless there is a strong case for exceptional growth. It may surprise you, but I’m seeing some interesting deals go for 3x now.
You’ll know in your own mind whether you’re being fair with your analysis. Try not to cheat yourself because there’s a real danger that it could come back to haunt you. There’s always the argument that if things really do get better, investors will be glad to see a significant uptick in your next report. If you’re too optimistic now, disappointing them twice will hardly be fun. Also, investors won’t be surprised with value losses now; they’re probably expecting them. So take this opportunity to take an honest look at your portfolio and move on to planning for the upturn (now there’s some positive thinking).
http://www.theprivateequiteer.com/the-earnings-multiple-valuation-method/
Earnings Multiple: A Valuation Method
Among various methods for determining the value of a small business, the "earnings multiple" approach is almost universally considered to be the most acceptable and useful.
- on the one hand--a manufacturing company in a troubled industry with several hundred thousands in hard assets, but less than $3,500 per month in owner earnings, and
- on the other hand, a distributorship generating more than $20,000 per month in owner earnings, and operated successfully with little in the way of assets--perhaps just a fax-capable telephone and an address book.
http://www.usabizmart.com/blog/earnings-multiple-business-valuation-120508.php
Price to Future Earnings
Price to Future Earnings
The price earnings ratio cannot be estimated for firms with negative earnings per share. While there are other multiples, such as the price to sales ratio, that can still be estimated for these firms, there are analysts who prefer the familiar ground of PE ratios.
One way in which the price earnings ratio can be modified for use in these firms is to use expected earnings per share in a future year in computing the PE ratio.
For instance, assume that a firm has earnings per share currently of -$2.00 but is expected to report earnings per share in 5 years of $1.50 per share. You could divide the price today by the expected earnings per share in five years to obtain a PE ratio.
How would such a PE ratio be used? The PE ratio for all of the comparable firms would also have to be estimated using expected earnings per share in 5 years and the resulting values can be compared across firms. Assuming that all of the firms in the sample share the same risk, growth and payout characteristics after year 5, firms with low price to future earnings ratios will be considered undervalued.
An alternative approach is to estimate a target price for the negative earnings firm in five years, divide that price by earnings in that year and compare this PE ratio to the PE ratio of comparable firms today.
While this modified version of the PE ratio increases the reach of PE ratios to cover many firms that have negative earnings today, it is difficult to control for differences between the firm being valued and the comparable firms, since you are comparing firms at different points in time.
Illustration: Analyzing Amazon using Price to Future Earnings per share Amazon.com has negative earnings per share in 2000. Based upon consensus estimates, analysts expect it to lose $0.63 per share in 2001 but is expected to earn $1.50 per share in 2004. At its current price of $49 per share, this would translate into a price/future earnings per share of 32.67.
In the first approach, this multiple of earnings can be compared to the price/future earnings ratios of comparable firms. If you define comparable firms to be e-tailers, Amazon looks reasonably attractive since the average price/future earnings per share of etailers
is 65. If, on the other hand, you compared Amazon’s price to future earnings per share to the average price to future earnings per share (in 2004) of specialty retailers, the picture is bleaker. The average price to future earnings for these firms is 12, which would lead to a conclusion that Amazon is over valued. Implicit in both these comparisons is the assumption that Amazon will have similar risk, growth and cash flow characteristics as the comparable firms in five years. You could argue that Amazon will still have much higher growth potential than other specialty retailers after 2004 and that this could explain the difference in multiples. You could even use differences in expected growth after 2004 to adjust for the differences, but estimates of these growth rates are usually not made by analysts.
In the second approach, the current price to earnings ratio for specialty retailers, which is estimated to be 20.31, and the expected earnings per share of Amazon in 2004, which is estimated to be $1.50. This would yield a target price of $30.46. Discounting this price back to the present using Amazon’s cost of equity of 12.94% results in a value per share.
= Target price in five years / (1+ Cost of equity)^5
Value per share
= 30.46 / (1.1294^5)
= $16.58
At its current price of $49, this would again suggest an over valued stock. Here again, though, you are assuming that Amazon in five years will resemble a specialty retailer today in terms of risk, growth and cash flow characteristics.
http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/A2009-1-1877347.ch18-earning-multiple(1).pdf
The price earnings ratio cannot be estimated for firms with negative earnings per share. While there are other multiples, such as the price to sales ratio, that can still be estimated for these firms, there are analysts who prefer the familiar ground of PE ratios.
One way in which the price earnings ratio can be modified for use in these firms is to use expected earnings per share in a future year in computing the PE ratio.
For instance, assume that a firm has earnings per share currently of -$2.00 but is expected to report earnings per share in 5 years of $1.50 per share. You could divide the price today by the expected earnings per share in five years to obtain a PE ratio.
How would such a PE ratio be used? The PE ratio for all of the comparable firms would also have to be estimated using expected earnings per share in 5 years and the resulting values can be compared across firms. Assuming that all of the firms in the sample share the same risk, growth and payout characteristics after year 5, firms with low price to future earnings ratios will be considered undervalued.
An alternative approach is to estimate a target price for the negative earnings firm in five years, divide that price by earnings in that year and compare this PE ratio to the PE ratio of comparable firms today.
While this modified version of the PE ratio increases the reach of PE ratios to cover many firms that have negative earnings today, it is difficult to control for differences between the firm being valued and the comparable firms, since you are comparing firms at different points in time.
Illustration: Analyzing Amazon using Price to Future Earnings per share Amazon.com has negative earnings per share in 2000. Based upon consensus estimates, analysts expect it to lose $0.63 per share in 2001 but is expected to earn $1.50 per share in 2004. At its current price of $49 per share, this would translate into a price/future earnings per share of 32.67.
In the first approach, this multiple of earnings can be compared to the price/future earnings ratios of comparable firms. If you define comparable firms to be e-tailers, Amazon looks reasonably attractive since the average price/future earnings per share of etailers
is 65. If, on the other hand, you compared Amazon’s price to future earnings per share to the average price to future earnings per share (in 2004) of specialty retailers, the picture is bleaker. The average price to future earnings for these firms is 12, which would lead to a conclusion that Amazon is over valued. Implicit in both these comparisons is the assumption that Amazon will have similar risk, growth and cash flow characteristics as the comparable firms in five years. You could argue that Amazon will still have much higher growth potential than other specialty retailers after 2004 and that this could explain the difference in multiples. You could even use differences in expected growth after 2004 to adjust for the differences, but estimates of these growth rates are usually not made by analysts.
In the second approach, the current price to earnings ratio for specialty retailers, which is estimated to be 20.31, and the expected earnings per share of Amazon in 2004, which is estimated to be $1.50. This would yield a target price of $30.46. Discounting this price back to the present using Amazon’s cost of equity of 12.94% results in a value per share.
= Target price in five years / (1+ Cost of equity)^5
Value per share
= 30.46 / (1.1294^5)
= $16.58
At its current price of $49, this would again suggest an over valued stock. Here again, though, you are assuming that Amazon in five years will resemble a specialty retailer today in terms of risk, growth and cash flow characteristics.
http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/A2009-1-1877347.ch18-earning-multiple(1).pdf
Relative PE Ratios and Market Growth
Relative PE Ratios and Market Growth
As the expected growth rate on the market increases, the divergence in PE ratios increases, resulting in a bigger range for relative PE ratios.
This can be illustrated very simply, if you consider the relative PE for a company that grows at half the rate as the market.
When the market growth rate is 4%, this firm will trade at a PE that is roughly 80% of the market PE. When the market growth rate increases to 10%, the firm will trade at a PE that is 60% of the market PE.
This has consequences for analysts who use relative PE ratios. Stocks of firms whose earnings grow at a rate much lower than the market growth rate, will often look cheap on a relative PE basis when the market growth rate is high, and expensive when the market growth rate is low.
http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/A2009-1-1877347.ch18-earning-multiple(1).pdf
As the expected growth rate on the market increases, the divergence in PE ratios increases, resulting in a bigger range for relative PE ratios.
This can be illustrated very simply, if you consider the relative PE for a company that grows at half the rate as the market.
When the market growth rate is 4%, this firm will trade at a PE that is roughly 80% of the market PE. When the market growth rate increases to 10%, the firm will trade at a PE that is 60% of the market PE.
This has consequences for analysts who use relative PE ratios. Stocks of firms whose earnings grow at a rate much lower than the market growth rate, will often look cheap on a relative PE basis when the market growth rate is high, and expensive when the market growth rate is low.
http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/A2009-1-1877347.ch18-earning-multiple(1).pdf
Relative PE Ratios
Note that the relative PE ratio is a function of all of the variables that determine the PE ratio – the expected growth rate, the risk of the firm and the payout ratio – but stated in terms relative to the market. Thus, a firm’s relative PE ratio is a function of its relative growth rate in earnings per share (Growth Ratefirm/Growth Ratemarket), its relative cost of equity (Cost of Equityfirm/Cost of Equitymarket) and its relative return on equity (ROEfirm/ROEmarket). Firms with higher relative growth, lower relative costs of equity and higher relative returns on equity should trade at higher relative PE ratios.
There are two ways in which they are used in valuation.
- One is to compare a firm’s relative PE ratio to its historical norms; Ford, for instance, may be viewed as under valued because its relative PE ratio of 0.24 today is lower than the relative PE that it has historically traded at.
- The other is to compare relative PE ratios of firms in different markets; this allows comparisons when PE ratios in different markets vary significantly.
Illustration:
Comparing Relative PE ratios for automobile stock – December 2000
In December 2000, the S&P 500 was trading at a multiple of 29.09 times earnings. At the same time, Ford, Chrysler and GM were trading at 7.05, 8.95 and 6.93 times earnings, respectively. Their relative PE ratios are reported.
Relative PE for Ford = 7.05 / 29.09 = 0.24
Relative PE for Chrysler = 8.95 / 29.09 = 0.30
Relative PE for GM = 6.93 / 29.09 = 0.24
Does this mean that GM and Ford are more under valued than Chrysler? Not necessarily, since there are differences in growth and risk across these firms. In fact, Figure 18.13 graphs the relative PE ratios of the three firms going back to the early 1990s. In 1993, GM traded at a significantly higher relative PE ratio than the other two firms. In fact, the conventional wisdom until that point in time was that GM was less risky than the other two firms because of its dominance of the auto market and should trade at a higher multiple of earnings. During the 1990s, the premium paid for GM largely disappeared and the three automobile firms traded at roughly the same relative PE ratios.
http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/A2009-1-1877347.ch18-earning-multiple(1).pdf
Sunday, 10 May 2009
3 measures of a stock's value
Value can be a subjective term depending on who is talking about it and how they measure values for themselves.
3 long-held fundamental measures of value are:
P/E
P/B
DY
Price: Price by itself without any other analytical factor is in fact worthless.
Earning: Earning can be a nebulous figure. Earnings can be modified and adjusted according to what the company's needs are. Sometimes if the company likes to have a different tax basis for one quarter, they may adjust their earnings up or earnings down. There are companies that depress earnings for one quarter and then lifted up earnings the next quarter to facilitate selling of stock options to important executives.
Earnings are what accountants say they are. P/E s are somewhat suspect, because earnings themselves can be suspects.
Book value: Book value also can be quite nebulous.
Often a company carries an asset at cost of 30 years to 40 years ago. Therefore, the book value does not give measure of true value of these assets of this company.
Dividend: Dividend tells us 3 things.
1. Dividend can only come as a result of earnings. In other words, company cannot pay what it doesn't have. In order for a company to pay dividend, it has to have earnings. This let us know that the company we are investing in, is a profitable concern.
2. Dividend represents income. It is a tangible return on your investment you receive every quarter. It is cash in your pocket. You can spend it on your needs, or you can reinvest that dividend into other dividend paying stocks and compound your returns.
3. Dividend helps us provide a basis for value. High quality stocks have some shared characteristics and repetitive patterns. These stocks tend to trade between 2 different bands of dividend yield. One band is when the price is low and the yield is high. The second band is when the price is high and the yield is low. Also, these stocks tend to trade in between these 2 bands over long period of time which gives us a good range to understand when to buy the stock and when to sell the stock.
To summarise: Dividend does 3 things.
1. It shows us our company is a profitable concern.
2. It puts income into our pocket.
3. It tells us when to buy and when to sell a stock.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/learn-how-to-invest/new-investor-center-video-ap.aspx?cp-documentid=9d33155e-df9b-43b7-8535-9f2a8d87c769
Also read:
Why dividends are important for investors' portfolios.
3 long-held fundamental measures of value are:
P/E
P/B
DY
Price: Price by itself without any other analytical factor is in fact worthless.
Earning: Earning can be a nebulous figure. Earnings can be modified and adjusted according to what the company's needs are. Sometimes if the company likes to have a different tax basis for one quarter, they may adjust their earnings up or earnings down. There are companies that depress earnings for one quarter and then lifted up earnings the next quarter to facilitate selling of stock options to important executives.
Earnings are what accountants say they are. P/E s are somewhat suspect, because earnings themselves can be suspects.
Book value: Book value also can be quite nebulous.
Often a company carries an asset at cost of 30 years to 40 years ago. Therefore, the book value does not give measure of true value of these assets of this company.
Dividend: Dividend tells us 3 things.
1. Dividend can only come as a result of earnings. In other words, company cannot pay what it doesn't have. In order for a company to pay dividend, it has to have earnings. This let us know that the company we are investing in, is a profitable concern.
2. Dividend represents income. It is a tangible return on your investment you receive every quarter. It is cash in your pocket. You can spend it on your needs, or you can reinvest that dividend into other dividend paying stocks and compound your returns.
3. Dividend helps us provide a basis for value. High quality stocks have some shared characteristics and repetitive patterns. These stocks tend to trade between 2 different bands of dividend yield. One band is when the price is low and the yield is high. The second band is when the price is high and the yield is low. Also, these stocks tend to trade in between these 2 bands over long period of time which gives us a good range to understand when to buy the stock and when to sell the stock.
To summarise: Dividend does 3 things.
1. It shows us our company is a profitable concern.
2. It puts income into our pocket.
3. It tells us when to buy and when to sell a stock.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/learn-how-to-invest/new-investor-center-video-ap.aspx?cp-documentid=9d33155e-df9b-43b7-8535-9f2a8d87c769
Also read:
Why dividends are important for investors' portfolios.
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