Showing posts with label Selling Smart. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Selling Smart. Show all posts

Saturday, 2 March 2024

Selling is often a harder decision than buying

 

Selling is often a harder decision than buying

"If you have bought a good quality stock at bargain or reasonable price, you can often hold forever." 

Investing is fun.  For every rule, there is always an exception. 

The main reasons for selling a stock are:

1.  When the fundamental has deteriorated permanently,  (Sell urgently)
2.  When it is overpriced, whereby the upside gain will be unlikely or very small and the downside loss will be big or certain.

We shall examine reason No. 2 through the property market.  The property market is also cyclical.  There were periods of booms and dooms. 


If you have a good piece of property that is always 100% tenanted and which gives you good consistent return (let's say 2x or 3x risk free FD rates), would you not hold this property forever?  The answer is probably yes.

Then, when would you sell this property?

Note that the valuation of property, as with stocks, is both objective and subjective.

Would you sell when someone offered to buy at 500% above your perceived market price?  

Probably yes, as this is obviously overpriced.  You could cash out and probably easily re-employ the money to earn better returns in another property (or properties) or other assets. 

Would you sell when someone offered to buy at 50% above your perceived market price? 

Maybe yes or maybe no.  You can offer your many reasons.  

However, all these will be based on the perceived future returns you can hope to get from this property in the future.  This is both objective based on past returns obtained and subjective and speculative on future returns.

However, unlike reason No.1 when you would need to sell urgently to another buyer to prevent sustaining a permanent loss, you need not sell just because someone offered to buy the property at high price. (However, there are also those who "flip properties" for their earnings; they will sell quickly for a quick profit.)  You will not suffer a loss but only a diminished return at worse.  You can take your time to work out the mathematics.  

You maybe surprised that you may still achieve a return higher at a time in the near future by rejecting the present immediate gain based on the present high price offered.  

Also, you would need to price in the lost opportunity cost when the property is sold at this price, even though it is 50% above the perceived normal market price.  Could you buy a similar quality property with the same sustainable increasing income or return by offering the same price?



Similarly, the same line of thinking can be applied to your selling of shares.  

When should you sell your shares?  

Yes, definitely when the fundamentals have deteriorated permanently.  The business has suffered for various reasons and going forward, the earnings will be permanently impaired and deteriorating.  

Yes, when the price is very very overpriced.  However, you need not sell your shares in good quality companies that you bought at fair or bargain price.  As long as the fundamentals are strong and the business is adding value, selling now at a higher price may mean losing the return that you could have obtained in the future years from owning this stock and the opportunity cost of reinvesting the cash into another stock of similar quality and returns.  

Once again, the importance of sound reasoning and doing the mathematics in making a decision whether to sell or not.

Is it not true, that the really big fortunes from common stocks have been garnered by those
  • who made a substantial commitment in theearly years of a company in whose future they had great confidence and
  • who held their original shares unwaveringly while they increased 10-fold or 100-fold or more in value?

The answer is "Yes."




Additional notes: 

Other reasons for selling a stock (or property) are:
  • To raise cash to reinvest into another asset with better return.
  • A certain stock (or property sector) may be over-represented in your portfolio due to recent rapid price rises and you need to reduce its weightage to reduce your risk of over-exposure in this single stock (or property sector).


Footnote:
 

This is a true story. A rich man was approached by a buyer to sell his property. A few neighbouring lots were sold for $1.6 m the last 2 years. What offer will ensure that you sell your property to me?  Please let me know. The unwilling owner replied, "$5 million". There is a lesson here too. :-)




Tuesday, 1 June 2010

To hold or to sell? Holding should occur only if no tests for selling are failed.

To hold or to sell?

In any discussion of holding versus selling stocks, the circumstances under which it is best to sell should be outlined first.  Holding should occur only if no tests for selling are failed.

The company-related reasons to sell are:

  1. Sell if the news cannot get any better.
  2. Sell if things did not go as planned.
  3. Sell when the broker's advice goes from 'buy' to 'hold.'
  4. Sell if company fundamentals are getting sick.
  5. Sell on the rebound in the aftermath of material, unexpected or discrete bad news.
  6. Sell in certain cases when expected news is delayed.


The market-action reasons to sell are:

  1. Sell when the stock reaches the target.
  2. Sell on an unsustainable upward price spike on big volume.
  3. Sell when a portfolio shows all gains.
  4. Sell if the stock is lazy money and likely to stay that way.
  5. Sell using above-market limit orders, letting the market come to the investor.
  6. Sell with a stop-loss order, but never remove or lower it.


Investor-related reasons to sell are:

  1. Sell if the stock would not be bought again today.
  2. Sell after gloating or counting the chips.
  3. Sell rather than hope against hope for a 'maybe' bailout.
  4. Sell and step aside on a personal losing streak.


If an investor sells stocks in a disciplined manner using the signal above, he is likely to end up with a good deal of cash before the market moves into a bear cycle.  Relatively few of his holdings will fail to hit one of  the 16 triggers noted in those lists above.  Those stocks that do survive will tend to be high-quality growth issues that have continued to perform fundamentally and have not run up to unreasonable price levels.  Some experts refer to these as core holdings or 'businessman's risk' foundation stocks.  They are stocks that have given consistent indications they can be held through good and bad in the market.

All other stocks will have become sales before a panic bottom because:

  1. They worked as planned.
  2. They acted too well for a brief period of time.
  3. They got unreasonably priced.
  4. They were wasting the time value of money by going nowhere.
  5. They developed significant fundamental problems. 


Very few stocks can escape all those screens for a long period.  So if an investor is cashing in as prescribed and if his buying discipline rejects new positions when valuations get too pricey, he ends up still holding very few stocks as the market get toppy.  That, of course, protects his capital.

There are two major price-driving forces:

  • fundamentals (which control the long term) and 
  • psychology (which rules the short and medium term).


The fundamental and psychological factors affect stocks in both directions.  And as an overlay, understand that they can affect a stock either

  • directly (because of the company behind the stock itself) or
  • indirectly (because the market trend is so strong that virtually no stocks can buck it).  
However, the indirect effect is much stronger on the downside than on the upside:  fear is a more powerful driver than greed.

Tuesday, 16 March 2010

Taking Profit and Reducing Serious Loss

Taking profit

Profit should be realised from sales of stocks in the following situations:
(I) when the stock is obviously overpriced, or
(II) when the sale of the stock frees the capital to be reinvested into another stock with potentially better return.



  • Not taking profit in the above situations can harm your portfolio and compromise its returns. 
  • In other circumstances, let the winners run.

Underperforming stocks should also be sold early.
  • Hanging onto underperforming stocks is costly too. 
  • There is the opportunity cost that the capital can be better employed for higher return. 
  • Also, hanging onto these lack-lustre stocks reduces the overall return of your portfolio.





Reducing serious loss

When the fundamentals of a stock have deteriorated, sell to protect your portfolio. 


  • This decision should be make quickly based on the facts and situations, in order to keep your losses small.







How can you improve your investment returns in stocks?

Friday, 29 May 2009

Remember, Nobody's Perfect

Remember, Nobody's Perfect

No investor - not even the greatest investors in the world - are right all the time.

Don't be discouraged when your system calls for you to lock in losses on a stock; not even the best investors in the world are right all the time.

Martin Zweig says:

"In the long run,
a 60% success rate translates into huge gains,
a 50% rate into solid gains, and
even a 40% rate can beat the market."


When it comes to the stock market, no one is right all the time - or even nearly all the time. Even the great Warren Buffett makes bad investments. Just read Berkshire Hathaway's annual report, and Buffett will often speak candidly about where he's gone wrong.

Some examples from a fund manager. A particular portfolio of theirs, by being right 62.7% of the time - on less than two-thirds of its picks - had more than tripled the gains of the S&P over 5 years. For the most part, their portfolios had accuracies between 50 and 60 % - far from perfect - and most had still doubled, tripled, or quadrupled the market. Being aware that no one can be right all the time, or even nearly all the time, can make it easier on your ego when your selling system calls for you to take a loss on a stock.

While you'll never be right all the time, you can be right more than you're wrong, however. In the end, the key is to develop a fundamental-based selling and rebalancing plan and stick with it, NO MATTER WHAT. When your portfolio does lose ground from time to time, you'll inevitably feel the urge to sell certain stocks and go after others on a whim or a hunch to make up ground. But if you have a detailed, quantitative selling system in place, you can help keep short-term emotions from wreaking havoc with your long-term performance.

Selling Smart

Selling Smart

"Flying isn't the hard part; landing in the net is." - Mario Zacchini, one of the original "Flying Cannonballs"

How do you stave off emotion and make good, sensible "sell" decisions?

The same way that you keep emotion at bay when deciding what stocks to buy: By using a disciplined system that makes sell decisions based on cold, hard fundamentals - not emotion-driven hunches, or arbitrary price targets.

To sell smart, you have to go back to the basic premise behind our "buy" strategy. And that is that over the long term, investors gravitate toward stocks with strong fundamentals because those are the strongest companies, and that causes those stocks' prices to rise over time. We buy because of the fundamentals - not just because the price is high or low or rising or falling. Remember, the only way price comes into the decision to buy is in how it relates to the stock's fundamentals - that is, in the form of such variables as the price-sales ratio or price-earnings ratio.

When you're building your portfolio, you want to pick the stocks that have the best fundamentals - because over the long run, investors gravitate toward stocks with strong fundamentals because they are the strongest companies.

What does this have to do with selling stocks?

If you're buying stocks because they have strong fundamentals, and over the long term, stocks with strong fundamentals tend to rise, you should hold on to a stock as long as it continues to meet the fundamental criteria you used to select it.

Whether the stock has dropped sharply since you bought it or whether it has skyrocketed is no matter; what matters is where the stock's fundamentals stand RIGHT NOW. Price - just as with buying - matters only in terms of how it relates to the fundamentals (what the stocks P/E or P/S ratios are, for example).

Many investors will sell a stock because its price has fallen and they think they need to cut their losses, or because the price has risen and they think the "smart" thing to do is to take the profits rather than risk the stock coming back down.

But those are arbitrary, emotional decisions. Remember, you bought the stock because its strong fundamentals make it a good bet to gain value; if its fundamentals are still strong, why wouldn't it still be a good bet to gain more value?

If the stock's fundamentals have slipped, however, so that it no longer meets the criteria you used to buy it, it's time to sell and replace it with another stock that does meet your criteria (and one that thereby has better prospects of rising in value).

The selling assessment is thus an ongoing reevalution of where a stock stands right now. You must continually reassess what the stock's prospects are going forward - not what they were a month ago, six months ago, or whenever you bought it.

Whether you use a one-month rebalancing or a different time frame that works for you, the important point is - you need to re-examine your portfolio at set intervals, to assess how your holding stand relative to the reasons you bought them. If they no longer meet the criteria you used to pick them, you should consider replacing them with new stocks that do make the grade.

You can also use your rebalancing period to reweight your portfolio in case some of your holdings have gained or lost a bunch, and now make up a disproportionate part of your portfolio. The idea here is to keep things close to equally weighted. It doesn't have to be perfect, though; if one stock gains a little ground so that it makes up a few more percentage points of your portfolio than the other stocks, you don't need to go selling a couple shares - and getting hit with trading charges - just to even things out exactly.

To keep this simple, you might want to set a reweighting target percentage. For example, anytime a holding's weight in your portfolio becomes 10 percent more or less than your target weight, you buy or sell shares of it to bring it back to that target.

By sticking to a firm rebalancing plan, you keep emotion and hype from impacting your selling decisions. You sell at regular intervals, and you sell based on fundamentals. Just as with buying stocks, there's no place for hunch-playing or knee-jerk reactions here.

When do You need to Sell Urgently?

There are a couple rare occasions, however, when you should sell a stock without waiting for the rebalancing date to arrive.

  • If a firm is involved or allegedly involved in a major accounting or earnings scandal, you should sell the stock immediately, because you can no longer trust its publicly disclosed financial data.
  • In addition, if a firm has become a serious bankruptcy risk since the last rebalancing, you should also sell its stock immediately.